Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-03-01 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:33, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit : What need to be taken in account too is also the case Internet = 5-7 apps. Having :

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-28 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 01:00 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit : What need to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-28 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le lundi 28 février 2011 18:21:58, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 01:00 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-25 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit : What need to be taken in account too is also the case Internet = 5-7 apps. Having : Internet = 5-7 submenus = 1 app entry is IMHO clearly suboptimal.

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-25 Thread Balcaen John
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 06:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit : Does it happen ? In a default Mandriva KDE installation I already have more than 10 internet applications. I do not use kde, but that doesn't sound good. What are the entries ? Are all of them really needed ? It's probably due

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-25 Thread Rémi Verschelde
2011/2/24 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org: Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Thu, 24 February 2011 17:48 So in the mean time, we have to rely on guess made from packagers on what would be the best application to use _if_ people did install more applications and didn't remove the installed default

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-25 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit : What need to be taken in account too is also the case Internet = 5-7 apps. Having :

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-25 Thread andre999
Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit : What need to be taken in account too is also the case Internet =

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 24.02.2011 11:06, Samuel Verschelde wrote: Le jeudi 24 février 2011 08:27:36, Oliver Burger a écrit : Am Donnerstag 24 Februar 2011, 08:20:41 schrieb Tux99: I have always hated that apps 'disappear' in the Other folders, can we not completely get rid of the Other folders, they don't make

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread andre999
Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le jeudi 24 février 2011 08:27:36, Oliver Burger a écrit : Am Donnerstag 24 Februar 2011, 08:20:41 schrieb Tux99: I have always hated that apps 'disappear' in the Other folders, can we not completely get rid of the Other folders, they don't make any sense (at

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Jérôme Hénin
Hi everyone, On 24 February 2011 13:27, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: This is not the number of click, but the fact that it take a longer time to scan the whole menu. Like reading a article with and without carriage return. The number of word to read are the same, but it is easier with

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 13:53 +0100, Jérôme Hénin a écrit : Hi everyone, On 24 February 2011 13:27, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: This is not the number of click, but the fact that it take a longer time to scan the whole menu. Like reading a article with and without carriage

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Tux99
Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Thu, 24 February 2011 13:27 Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 10:06 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : I don't think so. Several Mandriva releases ago, there was no such More entry, but real sub-categories in the menu. Then it changed for what we have

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 24.02.2011 18:57, Tux99 wrote: Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Thu, 24 February 2011 13:27 Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 10:06 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : I don't think so. Several Mandriva releases ago, there was no such More entry, but real sub-categories in the menu. Then it

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 20:30 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 24.02.2011 18:57, Tux99 wrote: Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Thu, 24 February 2011 13:27 Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 10:06 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : I don't think so. Several Mandriva releases ago, there

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Angelo Naselli
nice thread :) I prefer a 2-level menu tree. If people find that it makes too much clicks, This is not the number of click, but the fact that it take a longer time to scan the whole menu. Like reading a article with and without carriage return. The number of word to read are the same,

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 00:09 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 24.02.2011 21:15, Michael Scherer wrote: Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 20:30 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit : I have about 15-30 entries in everyone of Internet, Office, Audio/Video, Tools, Tools-System submenus. By

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-24 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 25.02.2011 02:12, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 00:09 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 24.02.2011 21:15, Michael Scherer wrote: Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 20:30 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit : With a two-level system it would be considerably less and closer to the ~7

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-23 Thread Tux99
I have always hated that apps 'disappear' in the Other folders, can we not completely get rid of the Other folders, they don't make any sense (at least intuitively for a user). -- Mageia ML Forum Gateway: http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-23 Thread Tux99
Quote: tux99 wrote on Thu, 24 February 2011 08:20 I have always hated that apps 'disappear' in the Other folders, can we not completely get rid of the Other folders, they don't make any sense (at least intuitively for a user). Sorry, forget my comment, I was confusing the Other subcategory

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-23 Thread Oliver Burger
Am Donnerstag 24 Februar 2011, 08:20:41 schrieb Tux99: I have always hated that apps 'disappear' in the Other folders, can we not completely get rid of the Other folders, they don't make any sense (at least intuitively for a user). IIRC this is triggered by the Categories entry in the desktop

[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-22 Thread Angelo Naselli
hi, porting tuxpaint i've finally found the time to fix and old menu issue for that application. Some low level school teachers i know, complain about tuxpaint position -Education/Other menu- that is not very intuitive. Packaging it again for mageia, I've relaized that there's Other nowhere into

Re: [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

2011-02-22 Thread Angelo Naselli
The menu layouts are defined in desktop-common-data. Menu NameOther/Name Directorymandriva-education-other.directory/Directory Include Or CategoryX-MandrivaLinux-MoreApplications-Education- Other/Category CategoryArt/Category