Re: [Mailman-Developers] DRAFT Datasource Interface v0.1

2001-03-13 Thread Ricardo Kustner
Hi, First of all, a disclaimer :) I'm not a core mailman developer but I'm interested in helping out with this and I (think I) know a bit about the internal workings as I've been following mailman development for a while now... On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 01:33:50PM -0500, Chris Ryan wrote: > http:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the n

2001-03-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JRA" == Jay R Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JRA> Got it. I presume SF has release notes, as they're built, JRA> too? There's moderate release notes in the files view, and of course I try to keep the NEWS file up-to-date, at least with the gross user visible changes. As T

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the n

2001-03-13 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 06:24:04PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > > "JRA" == Jay R Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > JRA> Barry? How far along the garden path *is* 2.1? > > It's in alpha, and AFAIK isn't being used by anyone except for testing > purposes. In fact there have been z

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the n

2001-03-13 Thread Ron Jarrell
At 06:24 PM 3/13/01 -0500, you wrote: >> "JRA" == Jay R Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >JRA> Barry? How far along the garden path *is* 2.1? > >It's in alpha, and AFAIK isn't being used by anyone except for testing >purposes. In fact there have been zero downloads from SF so I wo

[Mailman-Developers] > [#318434@bbs.pixel.citadel.org] Mar 13 2001 5:51pm from P

2001-03-13 Thread Patriot
> [#[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Mar 13 2001 5:51pm from Patriot @pixel > That's what I get each time this happens (UI have a crappy ISP.) > > > Hmm. Apparently my cut and paste went horribly awry: Mar 12 17:35:00 2001 gate_news(20198): Traceback (innermost last): Ma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the n

2001-03-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JRA" == Jay R Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JRA> Barry? How far along the garden path *is* 2.1? It's in alpha, and AFAIK isn't being used by anyone except for testing purposes. In fact there have been zero downloads from SF so I wonder if you all are just ignoring it, or if

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the n

2001-03-13 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:04:44PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > Note that this has changed a bit in Mailman 2.1, where mail->news is > implemented by a completely separate queue. Thus there are no child > processes needed, and the list is never locked by this queue. > gate_news hasn't changed

[Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

2001-03-13 Thread Patriot
That's what I get each time this happens (UI have a crappy ISP.) ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] The error log's not showing me anything useful...nothing I

2001-03-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "P" == Patriot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: P> The error log's not showing me anything useful...nothing I P> didn't already know anyhow. It shows me that the connection to P> my news server was refused (they were working on it). The P> fromusenet log: P> Mar 13

[Mailman-Developers] The error log's not showing me anything useful...nothing I

2001-03-13 Thread Patriot
The error log's not showing me anything useful...nothing I didn't already know anyhow. It shows me that the connection to my news server was refused (they were working on it). The fromusenet log: Mar 13 15:15:01 2001 (32476) Could not acquire gate_news lock There's a ton of tho

Re: [Mailman-Developers] I'm using 2.0.1, currently, I should have mentioned that.

2001-03-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "P" == Patriot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: P> I'm using 2.0.1, currently, I should have mentioned that. P> Thanks for getting back so quickly. :) You hit me at a good time. :) P> What I've been seeing is this (and please note, there's not P> timestamp on the lock

[Mailman-Developers] I'm using 2.0.1, currently, I should have mentioned that.

2001-03-13 Thread Patriot
I'm using 2.0.1, currently, I should have mentioned that. Thanks for getting back so quickly. :) What I've been seeing is this (and please note, there's not timestamp on the lockfiles that are created, only a datestamp): ~mailman/locks/gate_news.lock ~mailman/gate_news.lock.m

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the n

2001-03-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "P" == Patriot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: P> Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the news P> server you're trying to get to is down, or is slow and having P> problems mailman creates a lock file and doesn't unlock. The P> next time (every 5 minutes in my

[Mailman-Developers] Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the n

2001-03-13 Thread Patriot
Here's a little issue with the news gatewaying: If the news server you're trying to get to is down, or is slow and having problems mailman creates a lock file and doesn't unlock. The next time (every 5 minutes in my case) the gateway attempts to run the lock files are in place and it evid

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PHP wrappers?

2001-03-13 Thread Ron Jarrell
At 09:49 AM 3/13/01 -0800, Harold Paulson wrote: >Hey, > >I was trying to wrap several of the Mailman CLI tools (list_lists and such) in a >little PHP so I could easily integrate them into a larger web site. Using PHP's >System() function and the backtick operator to exec the Mailman tools neve

Re: [Mailman-Developers] DRAFT Datasource Interface v0.1

2001-03-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Thanks Chris. My workload's a bit backed up now that IPC9 is over, so I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to review this. I'll try to take a look some time this weekend. -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python

[Mailman-Developers] DRAFT Datasource Interface v0.1

2001-03-13 Thread Chris Ryan
All, I've written up a templatish python code of the inteface with some comments and the like. I've placed everything on the Mailman ZWiki page http://www.zope.org/Members/bwarsaw/MailmanDesignNotes/CentralizedUserDatabase at Ricardo's sugestion so that you may all read it over and commen

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PHP wrappers?

2001-03-13 Thread Chris Ryan
You may want to check for things such as PATH information as it could be that when executing the script it can't find python executable. One possible idea is try executing your command in a fasion like: system("myprogram arg1 arg2 2>&1"); This may help by showing any output that gets sen

[Mailman-Developers] PHP wrappers?

2001-03-13 Thread Harold Paulson
Hey, I was trying to wrap several of the Mailman CLI tools (list_lists and such) in a little PHP so I could easily integrate them into a larger web site. Using PHP's System() function and the backtick operator to exec the Mailman tools never seems to result in any output, but no errors eithe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman and the web

2001-03-13 Thread Jerry Asher
Chris, Sounds good, I'll be looking for your draft later on. > I'm hoping to get the interface squared away soon at which point any >help would be wonderful for the conversion of mailman to use the >interface and the development of any datasources that people would wish >Mailman to use.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman and the web

2001-03-13 Thread Chris Ryan
Jerry, Currently I'm working on developing code for Mailman that will allow Mailman to work using any appropiate datasource. I plan on implimenting the flatfile (currently what is used today) and a PostgreSQL database datasource. I should have the first draft of the interface up on the Ma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman and the web

2001-03-13 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 08:36:35AM -0800, Jerry Asher wrote: > 4 but I am worried about mail loops. > > Can someone tell me "how well" Mailman performs at detecting/catching > vacation and bounce messages? Well, I can pipe in on this one part of the topic. [Part of] The problem is that ther

[Mailman-Developers] mailman and the web

2001-03-13 Thread Jerry Asher
I would like to unify mailman with an ACS bboard. The Open ACS (http://openacs.org) is a toolkit developing interactive community websites based on PostgreSQL and Tcl. ACS Bboards are just what they sound like, a discussion forum in which visitors to a site can post questions, or post answer

[Mailman-Developers] Small patch concerning Debian bug #50583

2001-03-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Hi, I am the new Debian maintainer of Mailman, which means that I'll probably bug some of you concerning old bugs.. :) If any of the bugs listed at http://bugs.debian.org/mailman are fixed, I'd like to know, so that I can close them. (The bug report is at http://bugs.debian.org/50583 ). The pat

[Mailman-Developers] Playing with i18n

2001-03-13 Thread Juan Carlos Rey Anaya
I have uploaded my local copy of - English and spanish templates - spanish catalog, updated to March, 13th 2001 at ftp://ftp.uma.es/pub/mailman For those who would like to play with i18n. Cheers -- ___ / F \ [[[