Re: [Mailman-Developers] more 2.1b3++ MIME funnies.

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
>> Nope, because messages are processed for the two digests in the same >> fell swoop. I don't think it's ever come up before that you might >> want different processing for the different digests, but that /does/ >> make sense. ("Oh, TODO, please come here for a moment") Yup. they really serve

Re: [Mailman-Developers] more 2.1b3++ MIME funnies.

2002-10-14 Thread John W Baxter
At 17:25 -0400 10/14/2002, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: >CVR> What I'd like to be able to do (but can't) is allow M/A, >CVR> t/plain and t/html, and use the lynx to defang HTML going >CVR> into the text (but not MIME) digests. That seems the most >CVR> reasonable set of compromises to al

[Mailman-Developers] here we go again... (are these headers reallyright?)

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
Okay, looking at the headers of a personalized message. is this really right? Here's the problem. From points to the author. To points to me. In this case, they're both the same, but... If you reply -- it goes to the author. If you reply-to-all -- it goes to the author, because nowhere in th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread J C Lawrence
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:58:14 -0400 Barry A Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "JCL" == J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Would you like to have the Exim/TMDA/Mailman HOW-TO as a rider on >> that, or should we tuck it in as a separate README (Barry?). > Is the document Exim spec

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Even more on that log weirdie...

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "BAW" == Barry A Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BAW> 2) the logs/vette message needs to be improved. On second though, I'm inclined to just remove the log message. It was mostly just helpful for debugging. pep-282-ly y'rs, -Barry ___

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Even more on that log weirdie...

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> why is mailman sending the unsub to -request here? and CVR> throwing it out? Oh this is twisted! Note that this only happens when you have admin_notify_mchanges enabled. So, when you remove the address, the user gets a n

[Mailman-Developers] Even more on that log weirdie...

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
Okay, here we go. I added an address to one of my lists, and then deleted it again. Here are the log entries. plaidworks.com 99# remove_members --fromall [EMAIL PROTECTED] User `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' removed from list: sharks. plaidworks.com 100# *** subscribe *** Oct 14 20:16:13 2002 (7041) sharks

[Mailman-Developers] hmm. One correction.

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
to my last. It looks like mailman is generating THREE messages to the unsubscribe now. One to the subscriber, one to the list admin and one -- where? I dunno. Or maybe I'm misreading the logs. but I definitely got the one to the list owner on this latest unsubscribe, which I didn't previous to

[Mailman-Developers] woo hoo!

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
personalization works! Even better, it let me nail a bounce that was being forwarded through bigfoot to a place that was stripping all headers. User `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' removed from list: ahl. the bounce was coming back from: Your message To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sorry, a q

Re: [Mailman-Developers] updated to CVS, and stuff broke....

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "BAW" == Barry A Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BAW> Yikes. Ok, simple bug. Let me test a few things and then BAW> check in a patch. Should be should a few minutes. Try it now. -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PR

Re: [Mailman-Developers] updated to CVS, and stuff broke....

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Yikes. Ok, simple bug. Let me test a few things and then check in a patch. Should be should a few minutes. -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman-21/listinfo/mailman-developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] updated to CVS, and stuff broke....

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 06:52 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > > S'ok, I often forget myself. Wanna see the bald spot where I scratch > my head too often? ;) > looks like mine... Okay, updated to cvs. ran config.status. make, mailmanctl stop, make install, mailmanctl start, and went on

Re: [Mailman-Developers] HTML and text digests...

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 05:05 PM, Barry A. Warsaw CVR> wrote: >> But the architecture really doesn't, unfortunately. CVR> Yeah, I had that feeling. so we'll do without HTML for the CVR> time being. Hon

Re: [Mailman-Developers] updated to CVS, and stuff broke....

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You know that whenever you cvs up, you should always run >> "./config.status" to update the generated files. CVR> hmm. I thought I had. But you're right. I went and looked, CVR> and it's clear I didn't. oops. S'ok,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] HTML and text digests...

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 05:05 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > But the architecture really doesn't, unfortunately. Yeah, I had that feeling. so we'll do without HTML for the time being. Honestly, not a huge loss, but I need functional text digests more. ("you don't always get what you wa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] updated to CVS, and stuff broke....

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 05:11 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > You know that whenever you cvs up, you should always run > "./config.status" to update the generated files. hmm. I thought I had. But you're right. I went and looked, and it's clear I didn't. oops. > Another thing you always

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MM" == Marc MERLIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MM> I took the document from Nigel, modified it, and gave you my MM> version for CVS (and gave it to Nigel too) Greg took my MM> version from your CVS and further updated it, so he has the up MM> to date version, so feel free

Re: [Mailman-Developers] problem with list member's vacation script

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "GM" == Gustavo M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: GM> I manage a mailing list site with mailman, and I recently had GM> the following problem: GM> Lets say I have a list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 3 members: GM> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] m3

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 08:18:28PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > > > "MM" == Marc MERLIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > MM> That'd be nice, but I think Nigel is a bit too busy, I sent > MM> him my new version too, but he never had the time to post it > MM> on exim.org > > Ok.

[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Exim] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Greg Ward
On 11 October 2002, Marc MERLIN said: > I've been meaning to add this: Hmmm, good point. Hadn't thought about it because SMTP callbacks seem a little *too* powerful to me. I think it's more important to add something about disabling recipient verification for 127.0.0.1 first, but I wanted to ge

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MM" == Marc MERLIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MM> That'd be nice, but I think Nigel is a bit too busy, I sent MM> him my new version too, but he never had the time to post it MM> on exim.org Ok. Can you and Greg get together and agree on a new version for Mailman's README.E

Re: [Mailman-Developers] updated to CVS, and stuff broke....

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> Looks like a couple of Defaults.py variables got added but CVR> weren't added to Defaults.py on the update. You know that whenever you cvs up, you should always run "./config.status" to update the generated files. When ne

Re: [Mailman-Developers] HTML and text digests...

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> But it seems to me that one way to allow that but protect the CVR> text digests was to use that lynx filtering, but only on the CVR> content sent to the text digest. Yes, I know, another CVR> @#$@%@#$ configuration

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:56:47PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > Speeaking of Mailman's README.EXIM, do we want to continue to > distribute a copy of the exim.org doc, or should we zap that and just > include a pointer to the canonical location on the web? Which, I'm > assuming, will be http://

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JCL" == J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JCL> Would you like to have the Exim/TMDA/Mailman HOW-TO as a JCL> rider on that, or should we tuck it in as a separate README JCL> (Barry?). Is the document Exim specific, or can you write it to be somewhat agnostic towards th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Overhauled 'Exim and Mailman' doc

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "GW" == Greg Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: GW> I've just spent the last couple of hours beating the GW> README.EXIM document from Mailman's current CVS tree into GW> shape. (This is derived from Nigel Metheringham's "HOWTO - GW> Using exim and Mailman together" document

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MimeDel i18n message undelivered

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "TK" == Tokio Kikuchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TK> While testing MimeDel with i18n Japanese configuration, TK> message delivery error occured when forwarding the filetered TK> message to the list administrator. Here is a quick patch: Thanks, applied. -Barry ___

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-checkins] mailman/templates/ruarchidxentry.html,NONE,2.0 archidxfoot.html,NONE,2.0archidxhead.html,NONE,2.0archlistend.html,NONE,2.0 archliststart.html,NONE,2.0archtocentry.html,NONE,2.0 archtoc.html,NONE,2.0

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MS" == Mikhail Sobolev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> It's not a _problem_. It's just a feeling about a "right MS> thing". :( MS> What I feel is not right that the resulting _file_ is MS> assembled from other _files_. I believe, this is not how the MS> rest of Mail

Re: [Mailman-Developers] more 2.1b3++ MIME funnies.

2002-10-14 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> I'm finding that if someone sends a M/A message with a plain CVR> and an html part, it's getting processed, and I'm getting a CVR> message going out with two t/p parts, one the original, and CVR> one empty. Since th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] more 2.1b3++ MIME funnies.

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 09:25 AM, Michael Meltzer wrote: > unless that was a typo, that 2 months old, you might want to grab the > latest and greatest. god, yes. I just wish it was a typo. I updated saturday night, then installed the update and started tweaking... > The black list I

Re: [Mailman-Developers] more 2.1b3++ MIME funnies.

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Meltzer
unless that was a typo, that 2 months old, you might want to grab the latest and greatest. The black list I use: application audio video model image White list: text/plain text/richtext text/enriched text/html text/rfc822-headers multipart/mixed multipart/alternative multipart/digest multipart/

Re: [Mailman-Developers] more 2.1b3++ MIME funnies.

2002-10-14 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 09:00 AM, Michael Meltzer wrote: > thier was a fix in Mimedel.py about 1 week ago with > multipart/alternative that soulds pretty close to this bug, > How old is the CVS update you are using? > 8/12 -- saturday night... -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Developers] more 2.1b3++ MIME funnies.

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Meltzer
thier was a fix in Mimedel.py about 1 week ago with multipart/alternative that soulds pretty close to this bug, How old is the CVS update you are using? MJM - Original Message - From: "Chuq Von Rospach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 3:40 PM S

[Mailman-Developers] [ mailman-Patches-444884 ] Integration of Mailman & htdig for archi

2002-10-14 Thread noreply
Patches item #444884, was opened at 2001-07-26 18:27 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=444884&group_id=103 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Submitted By: Richard Barrett (ppsys) Assigned to: Barry A. Wars