Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 20:29, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: > I am far behind the discussion but I think we can add one more option to > newlist command like this: > > newlist --urlhost=www.dom.ain --emailhost=mail.dom.ain listname > > We also keep @ notation for backward compatibility: > > newlist [EMAI

Re: [Mailman-Developers] locking and big lists

2004-10-29 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Fil wrote: In fact I would like to disable probes altogether, on all lists. Is this with a cron job, or with the bounce runner ? In fact mailman (CVS) will not send probes if VERP_PROBES = No. :-) What's weird now is that it processes things just "as if" it was sending probes, but indeed, in fact

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 18:09, Joe Rhett wrote: > > >>And second, let's think about this: > > > Sorry, I'm out of time to discuss this thread, so I'll just leave it at > this: I've already given my vote on doing this in a backward compatible > way. What's left is to g

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Terri Oda
On Oct 29, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Joe Rhett wrote: That's fine. Since we're sticking with the obscure, unintuitive syntax (to maintain backwards compatibility for an option that not a single person on the list said that they used and most didn't even understand) could I persuade you to update the docu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Joe Rhett
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 06:17:04PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 18:09, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > And second, let's think about this: > > Sorry, I'm out of time to discuss this thread, so I'll just leave it at > this: I've already given my vote on doing this in a backward compat

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Joe Rhett
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 06:23:22PM -0400, Terri Oda wrote: > Nono. You set up mailman.theirdomain.com or lists.theirdomain.com and > point *it* at your server. You don't host anything but lists, all the > lists then have addresses that are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and if > they want to alias [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Terri Oda
1. You have the list owner change their DNS to point to you 2. You host their website and their domain 3. You provide a mechanism for them to update their web pages 4. You provide a mechanism for them to access their e-mail 5. You become a general support/ISP for said domain, even though you only

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 18:09, Joe Rhett wrote: > And second, let's think about this: Sorry, I'm out of time to discuss this thread, so I'll just leave it at this: I've already given my vote on doing this in a backward compatible way. What's left is to generate a patch that satisfies my earlier re

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Joe Rhett
Already did it, as stated in my other post. If you are hacking around on your friend's websites it might be "a few lines", but a production script that must either succeed or tell you why not in useful terms takes hundreds of lines. But then I doubt that people who can't think beyond their person

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Joe Rhett
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:36:27AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Really? I provide mailing list services for lots of my friend's bands > (and most of my own), and they only need to create a new host name in > their domain, and point that at my server. I only need to answer mail > and web for that

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Joe Rhett
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:36:27AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 23:59, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > A virtual host requires me to configure my server to answer mail for their > > entire domain. > > Really? I provide mailing list services for lots of my friend's bands > (and most

[Mailman-Developers] Bug in Membership list search?

2004-10-29 Thread Peter Lombrozo
I think I found a bug in Mailman 2.1.5 Membership list search. When my search hits needs several pages to display the members, a letter list at the top links to the other alphabetical pages. However, when I hit the letter, it gives me all the members starting with that letter, instead of just

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 00:03, Joe Rhett wrote: > What tools are those? A heavy web ui? Personally, I'd write a scriptlet for bin/withlist to do it. Should be just a few lines of Python since withlist takes care of getting everything set up properly, deals with lock, etc. config_list as someon

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 23:59, Joe Rhett wrote: > A virtual host requires me to configure my server to answer mail for their > entire domain. Really? I provide mailing list services for lots of my friend's bands (and most of my own), and they only need to create a new host name in their domain, an

[Mailman-Developers] status of search archive feature

2004-10-29 Thread Glenn Burkhardt
I notice that there are patches available to integrate an archive search feature into Mailman, and at least one of the patches (#444884) has been maintained for years over the various versions of Mailman. Is there a plan for adding this incredibly useful feature to Mailman? Why hasn't patch 44

Re: [Mailman-Developers] on the subject of fix_url, list creation with @ is non-intuitive..

2004-10-29 Thread Joe Rhett
> We use config_list to set some specific options for each of our lists. > We have completely automated the mailman list setup and it has worked > without any human intervention for our 5000+ lists. Just create a > config_list template file by outputting the configuration for an > existing li

Re: [Mailman-Developers] locking and big lists

2004-10-29 Thread Fil
> >In fact I would like to disable probes altogether, on all lists. Is this > >with a cron job, or with the bounce runner ? > > In fact mailman (CVS) will not send probes if VERP_PROBES = No. :-) What's weird now is that it processes things just "as if" it was sending probes, but indeed, in fact