Re: [Mailman-Developers] Accessibility Testing Tools (was Re: Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :))

2006-06-29 Thread Brad Knowles
David Andrews said: > If you have OSX10.4 Tiger there is a built-in screen reader called Voice > Over. I believe it is command-F5 to bring it up, but could be wrong > there. I have only used it briefly, and not at all with the web, but > could probably get access to a machine at work. Correct,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Accessibility Testing Tools (was Re: Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :))

2006-06-29 Thread David Andrews
If you have OSX10.4 Tiger there is a built-in screen reader called Voice Over. I believe it is command-F5 to bring it up, but could be wrong there. I have only used it briefly, and not at all with the web, but could probably get access to a machine at work. Dave At 11:54 AM 6/29/2006, emf wr

[Mailman-Developers] ids, javascript, and Forms Acessibility

2006-06-29 Thread emf
Laura Carlson wrote: > I would caution against using implicit labels. I think your advice is correct. Here is the conundrum that had me using implicit labels in the first place: a.) All mailman page-elements need to be embeddable into other pages; this means that I can't collide with unknown

Re: [Mailman-Developers] SoC: status update

2006-06-29 Thread emf
Tokio Kikuchi wrote: > Hi Ethan, > > Since you are working on Web Interface, I have an important > suggestion/request on the charset we use. We will use UTF-8 exclusively on WUI, with the caveat that I will be sniffing any charset information contained in emails and attempt displaying (individ

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Acessibility Testing Tools (was Re: Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :))

2006-06-29 Thread emf
Laura Carlson wrote: > David Andrews already mentioned the demo versions of JAWS and > Window-Eyes [1]. I'll use the firefox jawsy thing and see what I can do past that point once I get windows on this box. > Home Page Reader [3] is also a good tool for web developers and > designers who are

Re: [Mailman-Developers] bulk subscriber changes

2006-06-29 Thread emf
Ian Eiloart wrote: > Yes, that sounds good. I'd be uploading a list of addresses to be synced > with the current membership. Great! I'll go this route. > Erm, perhaps. It would still be nice to be able to delete all the > members, though. For example, I can bulk subscribe a list of people. If

Re: [Mailman-Developers] bulk subscriber changes

2006-06-29 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 29 June 2006 09:39:28 -0400 emf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian Eiloart wrote: > >> Well, for some of our lists it's simply inappropriate for users to set >> preferences. > > OK, I can see this. My query/issue is this: as I understand it, > completely re-setting the list membership will al

[Mailman-Developers] bulk subscriber changes

2006-06-29 Thread emf
Ian Eiloart wrote: > Well, for some of our lists it's simply inappropriate for users to set > preferences. OK, I can see this. My query/issue is this: as I understand it, completely re-setting the list membership will also reset mailman's memory of who bounces, etc. So if any of the new membe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 29 June 2006 02:36:10 -0700 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:37 AM, emf wrote: > >>> How about this for extra: >>> >>> 1) Display a list of ALL members - just their names and addresses. >>> 2) Delete ALL the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 29 June 2006 02:40:44 -0700 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote: > >> Well, our MTA won't accept more than 250 recipients per email, so when >> people need to email several thousand reci

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 29, 2006, at 2:46 AM, David Lee wrote: > Is there an estimate of likely timescale for 2.2 ? (Yes, I know these > things slip! But approximate: two months? six months? a year?) > When > you get to the beta stage, I would hope we could off

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread David Lee
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Barry Warsaw wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Jun 21, 2006, at 1:47 AM, David Lee wrote: > > > One of the things on the TODO list: > >http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/todo.html > > is: > > Allow lists of the same name in two different

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:34 PM, Terri Oda wrote: > Oh, goodness, Ethan... I was excited when Barry told me we were > getting > a SoC student to do this, and you sound *exactly* what we need. I'll > try to restrain myself from declaring everlasting lov

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote: > Well, our MTA won't accept more than 250 recipients per email, so when > people need to email several thousand recipients, they have to > split their > recipient lists into blocks. It would be much b

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 21, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Matthew Newton wrote: > One thing that happens each year here for some lists is that all > list members of "course-year2" get moved to "course-year3", > "course-year1" to "course-year2", and new members added to > "course-

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:37 AM, emf wrote: >> How about this for extra: >> >> 1) Display a list of ALL members - just their names and addresses. >> 2) Delete ALL the list members with one click - OK, and maybe a >> confirm >> dialog! > > Hm. This come

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 21, 2006, at 1:47 AM, David Lee wrote: > One of the things on the TODO list: >http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/todo.html > is: > Allow lists of the same name in two different virtual domains > > (i.e. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and "[EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hi! I'll be your intern for the summer :)

2006-06-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 19, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote: > Well, in our case, the styles would be site-wide and set up only > once. We don't need a UI to set up the styles, because we've > already created them. Our current workflow is >1. Create a list