Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Carson Gaspar
--On Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:07 AM -0400 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or is there some way I'm missing that would allow us to segregate > some domain traffic to Mailman's LMTP server and other traffic to > Postfix's standard transports? What about Sendmail? Shouldn't be an i

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:25 AM, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 11:54 PM -0400 9/27/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> Looking at Postfix, what other options are readily available? I >> suppose you could try to hook into the transport maps, but if I >> understan

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:15 AM, Carson Gaspar wrote: > --On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:54 PM -0400 Barry Warsaw > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Looking at Postfix, what other options are readily available? I >> suppose >> you could try to ho

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >> In summary my preferences would be: >> >> Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support >> for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman >> 2.1.9, so let's ma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:56 PM -0400 9/27/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > I'm definitely not proposing to get rid of deliver to program, > so at worst, Sendmail users will continue to use this method. > Is there a better way to get the message from Sendmail into > Mailman's incoming queue? Well, sendmail does LMTP to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:54 PM -0400 9/27/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Looking at Postfix, what other options are readily available? I > suppose you could try to hook into the transport maps, but if I > understand them correctly, you're still talking about forking a > process per message. Use LMTP instead. This

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Carson Gaspar
--On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:54 PM -0400 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking at Postfix, what other options are readily available? I suppose > you could try to hook into the transport maps, but if I understand them > correctly, you're still talking about forking a proce

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 3:04 PM -0400 9/27/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> This appears to allow us to set up true virtual domains without >> having to encode destination aliases. The trick though is that we >> would us

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 6:33 PM -0700 9/27/06, Carson Gaspar wrote: > >> I love the idea. A fork/exec per message always makes me >> twitch... I have a >> feeling it would also provide better fault-tolerance, especia

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:34 PM -0500 9/27/06, Brad Knowles wrote: > Moreover, I'm not keen on Maildir. It makes a lot of trade-offs to > try to get something that is NFS-safe, and I'm not convinced those > trade-offs are worthwhile, especially not in a non-NFS environment. One other problem with Maildir -- it th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:33 PM -0700 9/27/06, Carson Gaspar wrote: > I love the idea. A fork/exec per message always makes me twitch... I have a > feeling it would also provide better fault-tolerance, especially in a > replicated filesystem cluster, where you have clear atomic behaviour at > your disposal. I agr

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:04 PM -0400 9/27/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > This appears to allow us to set up true virtual domains without > having to encode destination aliases. The trick though is that we > would use Maildir delivery for all incoming messages, something I'm > keen on switching to for Mailman 2.2 anyw

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Carson Gaspar wrote: > --On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:09 PM -0400 Barry Warsaw > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm not up on the development/release plans of RHEL. When do you >> think they might release a versi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 9:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support >> for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman >> 2.1.9, so let's make it official. > > Would it be poss

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Carson Gaspar
--On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:09 PM -0400 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not up on the development/release plans of RHEL. When do you > think they might release a version with Python 2.4 support? The same > kind of goes for OS X, which ships with Python 2.3 on Tiger. I h

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Carson Gaspar wrote: > --On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:54 AM -0400 Barry Warsaw > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Then there is the question of what versions we support for Mailman >> 2.2, which is currently under de

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Carson Gaspar
--On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:04 PM -0400 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to know what you think about updating our Postfix virtual > delivery hooks to use this technique, and about making Maildir > delivery the default. We'd keep the old way around for MTAs that > don'

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread stephen
Barry Warsaw writes: > Mailman 2.2 supported on Python 2.4 and 2.5. +1. > Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support > for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman > 2.1.9, so let's make it official. Would it be possible to maintain a rough li

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Carson Gaspar
--On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:54 AM -0400 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then there is the question of what versions we support for Mailman > 2.2, which is currently under development. Previously we've said > we'll support Python 2.3 but I think we should revisit that decision

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
> In summary my preferences would be: > > Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support > for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman > 2.1.9, so let's make it official. > > Mailman 2.2 supported on Python 2.4 and 2.5. +1 -- Tokio Kikuchi, [EMAIL P

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-checkins] SF.net SVN: mailman: [8041] trunk/mailman/Mailman

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 12:51 AM, Dale Newfield wrote: > This of course begs the questions of how mailman distinguishes between > the lists (what's the appropriate argument to the mailman binary, and > whether there are any characters besides "." that are

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm including mailman-developers on this message, because I want to discuss the issue of which Python versions to support. On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Stubbs Jeff wrote: > Got a question. I picked up another Mac, so I'm going to rebuild my > list