At 11:19 PM -0400 9/28/06, emf wrote:
> I can't find a filesystem that has a filename dependency for inode
> caching, so I suspect I'm completely misunderstanding this. Could you
> expand on that a bit?
Some filesystems implement an in-memory hash of recently accessed
files, but the filenames
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Larry Stone wrote:
> On 9/28/06 9:16 PM, Barry Warsaw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> So, that leads to the question, is there any reason to install
> python 2.5
> while running 2.1.9 or are we fine with 2.3.5 if we are
Brad Knowles wrote:
> Among other things Maildir creates really hairy long filenames, which
> can easily blow the iname/inode caching built into most filesystems
I can't find a filesystem that has a filename dependency for inode
caching, so I suspect I'm completely misunderstanding this. Could
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Larry Stone wrote:
> This all made me curious. I'm just a user of Mailman on Mac OS X - no
> development of any sort by me - so I'm good with 2.1.9 and Python
> 2.3.5 on
> 10.4.7 - but this topic made me look at the Pyth
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
> I know that our current solution is sub-optimal, but I'm not
> convinced that it's the only way to skin this cat. Moreover, I'm
> also not convinced that Maildir is the only effective way to make
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
>> Remember, this discussion all started because Postfix virtual host
>> delivery is broken on the trunk. The virtual_mailbox_maps feature
>> is a new one since we last looked at how to integrate Ma
At 1:29 PM -0400 9/28/06, John A. Martin wrote:
> Is in not possible to do Postfix virtual mailbox domains _without_
> maildir style delivery?
Probably, but I'm not sure it really buys us much of anything to have
separate mailboxes for each list, as opposed to a queue processing
mechanism tha
At 2:40 PM -0400 9/28/06, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> I would ask them if their license is GPL compatible. IOW, do they
> believe we can combine GPL code with theirs? Better yet would be
> cases where that's actually been done before.
I'll send a note and ask.
> Remember, this discussion all sta
> "baw" == Barry Warsaw
> "Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail"
> Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:40:51 -0400
baw> I think John was asking about using virtual_mailbox_maps with
baw> delivery to mbox, but I think that's worse, because mbox
baw> delivery forces you to implem
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Stubbs Jeff wrote:
> Barry - thanks for the advice
>
> I just wanted to report that Tiger (10.4.7 : ppc), Python 2.5 (from
> the OS X installer), and Mailman 2.1.9 works perfectly. Install
> went without a hitch.
>
> S
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
> Is there any license questions or issues that we would need to have
> answered or confirmed by the Sendmail Consortium? Or should we
> wait on that until we've heard back from the FSF?
I would
> "Brad" == Brad Knowles
> "Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail"
> Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:06:29 -0500
Brad> Maildir was not designed as an efficient queue-on-disk
Brad> strategy.
Is in not possible to do Postfix virtual mailbox domains _without_
maildir style delive
On 9/27/06 6:29 PM, "Carson Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:54 AM -0400 Barry Warsaw
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Then there is the question of what versions we support for Mailman
>> 2.2, which is currently under development. Previously we've said
On 9/28/06 1:11 AM, "Nigel Metheringham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 23:25 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
>> LMTP is probably the best and most native method for both sendmail
>> and postfix. I can't speak for other MTAs.
>
> Exim can do LMTP, over a pipe (ie fork/exec program
Brad Knowles wrote:
> I think we're better off spending our resources working on trying to
> resolve the real bottleneck issues that we already know are present
> in our system as opposed to working on cool stuff that may or may not
> help but would require more overall changes to more parts of
At 10:09 AM -0400 9/28/06, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> Does it have to be GPL? Is a Berkeley-type license not okay?
>
> GPL would be best, but Berkeley is probably okay. We'd probably
> want to get confirmation of that from the FSF. The key thing is
> that it has to be compatible with the GPL (a
--On 28 September 2006 08:21:05 -0500 Brad Knowles
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> What I find really intriguing about this approach is the ability to
>> reject some messages immediately, presumably allowing the MTA to
>> bounce them.
>
> Yup.
>
>>We could reject the message
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 8:12 AM -0400 9/28/06, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>
> Does it have to be GPL? Is a Berkeley-type license not okay?
GPL would be best, but Berkeley is probably okay. We'd probably want
to get confirma
At 8:12 AM -0400 9/28/06, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> What I find really intriguing about this approach is the ability to
> reject some messages immediately, presumably allowing the MTA to
> bounce them.
Yup.
>We could reject the message then before it entered
> Mailman's incoming
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On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:06 AM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote:
> I've checked in this patch today. Barry, please fix or backout
> them if
> you don't like them.
Thanks Tokio!
> It looked like that MaildirRunner.py couldn't deal with the list name
> like 'mail
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I've changed the subject to more accurately reflect this thread.
On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:11 AM, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 23:25 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
>> LMTP is probably the best and most native method for both sendmail
>>
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 23:25 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
> LMTP is probably the best and most native method for both sendmail
> and postfix. I can't speak for other MTAs.
Exim can do LMTP, over a pipe (ie fork/exec program), a socket or
TCP/IP.
Nigel.
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Hi Barry and all,
I've checked in this patch today. Barry, please fix or backout them if
you don't like them.
It looked like that MaildirRunner.py couldn't deal with the list name
like 'mailman-users', so I rewrote it with a primitive method instead of
using the re module. One problem: I man
At 10:57 PM -0700 9/27/06, Carson Gaspar wrote:
>> Or is there some way I'm missing that would allow us to segregate
>> some domain traffic to Mailman's LMTP server and other traffic to
>> Postfix's standard transports? What about Sendmail?
>
> Shouldn't be an issue with postfix. From the def
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