Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Jon Reese
Ethan, welcome back. Aaron, I like your idea of a multi-pronged approach and am very willing to focus on specific files or whatever portions that you or Ethan would like me to. Terri, I also like the idea of the "skin" approach and other UI systems that I have developed for did use that appr

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Andy Buckley
Aaron Crosman wrote: > From my reading of the responses to my question I see two ways that > people are thinking of proceeding, which I think might complement > each other well. I'm reading this thread with interest, as the problems of working with the current templates are really why I'm on this

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Ethan Fremen
Let's see if python.org is ok with me now... Barry Warsaw wrote: > If there are folks who want to start working on a new web u/i, either > to integrate a new templating system, or to prototype better content > or usability, then in the short term the thing to do would be to > branch Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Mads Kiilerich
Developers and Admins, It is understandable that some admins request a Mailman that works on their RHEL3 or older. But please don't let that hold development back at all. Admins really should appreciate that the developers look forward and focus on creating a system that is state-of-the-art. Wh

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 1, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Aaron Crosman wrote: >> From my reading of the responses to my question I see two ways that > people are thinking of proceeding, which I think might complement each > other well. > > First, there's the approach of fixing th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 1, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Ethan Fremen wrote: > Having struggled mightily to find a way to improve templating while > not > moving to python 2.4 (at least), I have to confess I don't think > there's > a good way to get there. That shouldn't be

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Ethan Fremen
Barry Warsaw wrote: > If there are folks who want to start working on a new web u/i, either > to integrate a new templating system, or to prototype better content > or usability, then in the short term the thing to do would be to > branch Mailman 2.1 and let you have at it. In order to get

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Aaron Crosman
>From my reading of the responses to my question I see two ways that people are thinking of proceeding, which I think might complement each other well. First, there's the approach of fixing the current pages by moving the style information out of the Python code and into a CSS file. Second, there

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread John Dennis
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:12 -0500, Jon Reese wrote: > Unfortunately there are a number of package related versions that cannot > be upgraded easily because the packagers have not brought the RPMs up to > date with the current stable release of Mailman (2.1.9). They may have > reasons for this,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Terri Oda wrote: > Ideally, I think it should be possible to skin mailman just using > CSS, so I'd say we should start there. And once that's done, maybe > someone could sit down and try making a few different skins so p

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 27, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Aaron Crosman wrote: > That said, I'm not clear where this project stands. I've been > reviewed > the summary from last summer's SoC work, and while that's given me > some > idea of what was done, I don't have a good