Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 andPostorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jeff Breidenbach wrote: >> archivers are configured site-wide, so there's almost nothing >> to expose in the web-ui. > > I'm worried about confusion. Indeed. I think Barry misspoke here. But remember, we're barely out of alpha test, and we don't actually have a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 26, 2012, at 06:07 PM, David Jeske wrote: >I highly recommend reconsidering this and including a standard archiver >with mailman. If the number of sites that use pipermail is any indication, >I think failing to include something will basically mean lots of lists >without any archives. I th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 26, 2012, at 05:11 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >We'd love to have work done on the archier! I know that we're ditching >pipermail entirely and that archivers are becoming separate from the core >mailman. What I don't know is whether mailman3 will eventually have >a standard archiver which

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 27, 2012, at 08:53 AM, David Jeske wrote: >Storm-ORM looks like it allows any primary key so that's good. From a quick >glance it looks very similar to the Clearsilver-odb-orm in syntax and >function. My primary beef with django-orm (last time I looked at it) was it >requiring a unique-id p

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 27, 2012, at 09:32 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Well, for the official poop you'll have to wait for Barry, but AFAICS >archivers aren't restricted to Storm + RESTish (which is what Mailman itself >uses) because they're separate applications. If the archiver/web UI is going >to be distri

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 27, 2012, at 01:29 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >So Postorius (the webUI) has a sketch of an auth system using BrowserID at >the moment. BrowserID is convenient 'cause it proves you have ownership of a >given email address, but we should have OpenID working soon once we've got >the code to confirm

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 26, 2012, at 10:37 PM, David Jeske wrote: >Yes. My CSLA code is on the table for MM2 or 3. It's python, and it's BSD. >More than that, if you folks want it, I'm happy to retool/rewrite it as >needed to make it suitable. (it has lots of great features, but i havn't >touched it in a long time

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Pipermail is going the way of the dodo, yes, but there will be something >bundled with Mailman, I'm pretty sure. fsvo "bundled" :) >(1) the communication from Mailman to the archivers will be via >LMTP/SMTP, including a Mailman-specific h

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Terri Oda wrote: >> Looks like archiver for mm3 is still in development stage. As far as I >> understand searcher depends on the srchiver, right? Not completely but it >> somewhat depends on archiver. I am not sure if searcher can be implemented >> without archive

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 andPostorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-27 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
What is the incantation for enabling an external archiving service? Currently I only see this in mailman.cfg after following 5 minute guide. [runner.archive] class: mailman.runners.archive.ArchiveRunner > archivers are configured site-wide, so there's almost nothing > to expose in the web-ui. I'

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 26, 2012, at 03:20 PM, David Jeske wrote: >I'm writing to find out the state of and philosophy surrounding pipermail >in mailman, to see if there is a productive way to provide some >code/development-time to that part of mailman. That's awesome. Pipermail (in its current state) is ancient

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2012 - NNTP archive access

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 27, 2012, at 09:09 PM, Alexander Sulfrian wrote: >What are the next steps you would propose. I unfortunately not up to >date with the development of mailman 3. But I am a little bit familiar >with the mailman 2 source code. MM3 will be a better platform to build something like the NNTP acc

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 03/26/2012 11:37 PM, David Jeske wrote: CSLA doesn't currently have any concept server-auth. The only stateful features it has are view-preferences and read-state, neither of which are important enough to require a password. It uses a password-less system which uses cookies for prefs and a 're

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2012 - NNTP archive access

2012-03-27 Thread Alexander Sulfrian
Hi, I would like to participate at the google summer of code this year for mailman. While reading through the ideas in the wiki, the NNTP archive access look very interesting. I took part in the gsoc last year for vlc, developing a c library for accessing a sony minidisc player from linux. This

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 03/27/2012 03:31 AM, Shayan Md wrote: I was working on mm3. But systers' indexer/searcher was implemented for mailman2. So it must be easy for to integrate it with mm2. Actually, the systers indexer was designed to work with mboxes (because I had a pile of data in that format that the stud

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 03:01:41PM +0530, Shayan Md wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Is this integration to be done with mailman2 or mailman3? > > In mailman3, the archivers are separated from the mailman core. > > I was working on mm3. But systers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread David Jeske
On Mar 27, 2012 5:32 AM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > If the archiver/web UI is going to be distributed > *with* Mailman, Barry would probably prefer > Storm + Django because that's what > Mailman/Protorius (core and admin web UI, resp.) are > using. But I imagine that's negotiable as long as >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Bug 937154] Re: bin/disabled.py is nonfunctional

2012-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 26, 2012, at 08:03 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > Should it provide exactly the same command line interface? Not necessarily. Looking at the code now I think the long options are probably fine, but I'm not sure the short options are great (e.g. -o is usually reserved for output to a file; no

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:37 PM, David Jeske wrote: > Can you share something about dependency philosophy (besides licensing) in > Mailman? Well, for the official poop you'll have to wait for Barry, but AFAICS archivers aren't restricted to Storm + RESTish (which is what Mailman itself uses) bec

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

2012-03-27 Thread David Jeske
I brought up a quick CSLA injest of some mailman-dev posts to show off some basic features. I'm having a little trouble with the swish-e code, so the features that depend on text-indexing arn't working at the moment (search, author search). The current UI uses user-cookies to choose between a 2-pa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-27 Thread Shayan Md
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 04:57:44PM +0530, Shayan Md wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am Shayan, I am doing my masters from IISc Bangalore. I want to take > part > > in GSoC from mailman organization. I have fairly good experience in > python. > >