Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > For the record, the current version of HyperKitty has moved from a > notmuch backend to a mongo database allowing a much more flexible data > storage scheme. Good to know! Is the source available? _

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Shayan Md wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull >wrote: > > >> And (2) search and retrieval may > >> do a *lot* of message access, for example if you want to do data > >> mi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC

On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 10:49 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Hyperkitty is the demo that > a few people have been working on, including Toshio at the sprints, > but there are others in play (eg, recent posts to this list). Also, > Hyperkitty is currently based on somewhat limited technology (

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Shayan Md wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull > wrote: >> And (2) search and retrieval may >> do a *lot* of message access, for example if you want to do data >> mining (see Ana from Spain's thread). > Isn't it the purpose of index? Y

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Shayan Md wrote: > > > Assuming that we have something like this(object-ID-addressable, If I am > > not wrong, mailman3 made it possible but not yet implemented as it's part > > of archiver), is it over

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On Mar 30, 2012, at 02:18 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> I suspect that there will be plenty of mailing lists that get fed messages >> from programs, e.g. think vcs -commit diff lists.  Those programs can also >> be buggy, but again I'd prefer that Mailman not compromise on this issue >> for th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

> An archiver should certainly provide an interface to look up a message by > [...] the hash. Including List-Id in the hash calculation allows the archiver to display a cross posted message in context. See http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#listserver Also, a gentle reminder that I put some c

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 17:11 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Grackle is another archiver for mailman that doesn't > have the UI bells and whistles of hyperkitty but it does make an > effort to expose a REST UI to the world. I think that's a beautiful > thing. I started a small thing on hyperkitt

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Shayan Md wrote: > Assuming that we have something like this(object-ID-addressable, If I am > not wrong, mailman3 made it possible but not yet implemented as it's part > of archiver), is it over ambitious to plan to implement indexer/searcher > for mailman3 and a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I would say you should try to retain copyright, and have the Mailman > project distribute it with the S-BSD license under the "mere > aggregation" clause of the GPL. This agrees with my view of the situation as well. Which leads to th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Terri Oda wrote: > > >> Looks like archiver for mm3 is still in development stage. As far as I > >> understand searcher depends on the srchiver, right? Not completely but > it > >> somewhat depends on a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On 03/29/2012 02:51 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Okay. I have to figure out why the consensus is that I am running django 1.4 while I actually installed 1.3.1: Just for the record, the reason we suspect Django 1.4 conflicts is that the link you posted with the errors

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

Barry writes: > I suspect that there will be plenty of mailing lists that get fed > messages from programs, e.g. think vcs -commit diff lists.  Those programs can > also be buggy, but again I'd prefer that Mailman not compromise on this issue > for their sake. I predict you will eventually l

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

* On 29 Mar 2012, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:04 PM, David Jeske wrote: > >> - Merging of forums, archives, newsgroups, and IMAP. > > > > You like to bite off the big ones eh? NNTP, then IMAP. > > > > Does anyone even use fat-mail-clients anymore? > > Yes, and yes. Bu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

Hi Odhiambo, Am 29.03.12 18:12, schrieb Odhiambo Washington: > My issue here is that I am not running Django 1.4 - unless I am missing > something. I am not sure where it is coming from. > I am on FreeBSD and I installed django-1.3.1 from the ports. A check on my > installed apps shows just that.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:04 PM, David Jeske wrote: >> - Merging of forums, archives, newsgroups, and IMAP. > > You like to bite off the big ones eh? NNTP, then IMAP. > > Does anyone even use fat-mail-clients anymore? Yes, and yes. But I don't think anybody has really thought carefully about the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM, David Jeske wrote: > I started to talk to one of them about installing CSLA (or MHonArc, or > anything really), and realized I should see if you folks are interested in > a great bundled archiver, I'm personally interested, but that's not going to be the main foc

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 13:53, Florian Fuchs wrote: > Hi, > > there seems to be a general problem running postorius with Django 1.4. > > Postorius alpha1 was released the same day Django 1.4 was, so we haven't > had anyone on the team so far who was running 1.4 while working on > postorius. > > @

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > (Aside: Is there some reason why you To: me and CC: the list rather than > having the list address in the To: field? I ask because I'm wondering if it's > a gmail thing, or something about your MUA, and because I suppress the list > copy if I'm

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

(Aside: Is there some reason why you To: me and CC: the list rather than having the list address in the To: field? I ask because I'm wondering if it's a gmail thing, or something about your MUA, and because I suppress the list copy if I'm CC'd directly, I don't get a List-Post: header, so my MUA's

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Additional Mailman GSoC mentors

On Mar 29, 2012, at 07:53 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >I can answer questions about using bzr and some launchpad questions >(although I also have lots of launchpad questions of my own :-). I'm now >fully versed in Warsaw import style rules although I should probably >recertify at the next pycon :-

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Additional Mailman GSoC mentors

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 01:57:03AM -0600, Terri Oda wrote: > It's looking like we're going to have more student applicants than in > previous years, so I think it'd be great if we could get a few more > mentors to match. > > If you're a semi-active mailman developer (i.e. I'm going to > recognize

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Mailman 3 itself requires unique Message-IDs. So? FWIW, I don't think I agree with that requirement (even RFC 5322 doesn't make it a "MUST"), but I'm not going to argue with you about Mailman 3 design, that's your pidgin. But there's nothi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC

Am 29.03.12 03:49, schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: > To be honest, I don't see how it would be related to Postorius, except > perhaps as some sort of plug-in (but we don't have a plug-in > architecture for Postorius, yet). Adding such features to Postorius > would be bloat, IMO. I also worry about t

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

Hi, there seems to be a general problem running postorius with Django 1.4. Postorius alpha1 was released the same day Django 1.4 was, so we haven't had anyone on the team so far who was running 1.4 while working on postorius. @Shayan, could you file a bug on https://launchpad.net/postorius and p

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:12, Shayan Md wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:33, Shayan Md wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington < >>> odhia...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, M

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:33, Shayan Md wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington > > wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs wrote: >>> >>> > Hi Odhiambo, >>> > >>> > Am 28.03.12

[Mailman-Developers] Additional Mailman GSoC mentors

It's looking like we're going to have more student applicants than in previous years, so I think it'd be great if we could get a few more mentors to match. If you're a semi-active mailman developer (i.e. I'm going to recognize your name from your mailman-developers postings) and you think you

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:33, Shayan Md wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington > > wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs wrote: >>> >>> > Hi Odhiambo, >>> > >>> > Am 28.03.12

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:33, Shayan Md wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington > wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs wrote: >> >> > Hi Odhiambo, >> > >> > Am 28.03.12 18:47, schrieb Odhiambo Washington: >> > > One more thing: >> > > >> > > In se

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs wrote: > > > Hi Odhiambo, > > > > Am 28.03.12 18:47, schrieb Odhiambo Washington: > > > One more thing: > > > > > > In settings.py, I have this: > > > > > > REST_SERVER = 'http://192.168.40

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

> - Stable URLs, RFC 5064 + X-Message-ID-Hash. > See the above links. If you can implement the > `IArchiver.permalink()` method and ensure that even if > completely wiped and regenerated from the > underlying raw messages, your URLs > will remain stable, I think you will have won. :) This is re

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:31, Florian Fuchs wrote: > Hi Odhiambo, > > Am 28.03.12 18:47, schrieb Odhiambo Washington: > > One more thing: > > > > In settings.py, I have this: > > > > REST_SERVER = 'http://192.168.40.252:8001' > > > > However, this doesn't seem to be respected when I do runserver