Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-04 Thread Mark Rousell
Hi, This is my first post here so please be gentle. I know I am risking telling certain people how to suck eggs. I'm not currently a Mailman user but will probably begin to use it soon. I've followed the Mailman-Developers list for some time to familiarise myself with how Mailman works. Apologie

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-04 Thread John R Levine
> * Really fixes DMARC problems That's a matter of opinion. The DMARC-using domains will disagree, I think, as it still means that you are "impersonating" their users (see below), and making DMARC ineffective as a means of reducing spam and phishing. But we'll see about that soon enough. No,

[Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Levine writes: > Before you tell me I'm nuts, hear me out. I've actually implemented > this, and it works. You're not nuts. However, your definition of "works" is necessarily limited to what you personally can see, in only a couple of weeks. It does *not* take into account the potential

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-04 Thread SM
Hi John, At 08:16 04-05-2014, John Levine wrote: The .invalid hack seems fine, no bounces, and no complaints about disappearing mail. There are mutant versions of this hack where you append a name with a wildcard that resolves but has an MTA that rejects all the mail, and a really evil one where

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-04 Thread John R Levine
Was there any occurrence of the ".invalid" in replies which were posted to the mailing list [1]? Not that I recall. Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. ___

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-04 Thread John Levine
>> From: Marissa >Our concerns are the possibility of mail being rejected by recipient >MTAs because of the invalid From: address and user complaints about >difficulty in replying to the poster. Those are exactly the things I was worried about, too. I've seen no rejections at all due to the a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman-Suite demo server

2014-05-04 Thread Abhilash Raj
Hi Sylvian, Currently there is no links to migrate between postorius(the mailman3 web ui) and hyperkitty(the archiver). Postorius: https://mailman.asynchronous.in/mailman3/ Hyperkitty: https://mailman.asynchronous.in/archives/ thanks, Abhilash On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Sylvain Viart wro

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/04/2014 06:26 AM, John Levine wrote: > I realize I'm a bit late to this party, but this is a technique that I > don't think has been addressed here. On my lists I've fixed the DMARC > bounces by rewriting From: lines of DMARC'ed domains like this on the > way out: > > From: Marissa > >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman-Suite demo server

2014-05-04 Thread Sylvain Viart
Hi, On 04/05/2014 09:12, Abhilash Raj wrote: I have setup a mailman-suite demo server here https://mailman.asynchronous.in/archives/ All are invited to poke around ;-) No registration form? Is it a default setup? Regards, Sylvain. ___ Mailman-Dev

[Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-04 Thread John Levine
I realize I'm a bit late to this party, but this is a technique that I don't think has been addressed here. On my lists I've fixed the DMARC bounces by rewriting From: lines of DMARC'ed domains like this on the way out: From: Marissa to From: Marissa Before you tell me I'm nuts, hear me

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman-Suite demo server

2014-05-04 Thread Abhilash Raj
Hi all, I have setup a mailman-suite demo server here[1]. It uses the latest packages at pypi for postorius, mailman and hyperkitty. I have deployed using mailman- bundler and used its latest code from launchpad. All are invited to poke around ;-) thanks, Abhilash [1]: mailman.asynchronous.in _