Re: [Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
I disagree, but this being a GNU project it's the party line to deprecate security and privacy in favor of freedom. I won't push the issue of defaults any further since we agree the OAuth option should be available. f...@florianfuchs.com writes: > Non-Profit which doesn't aim at making money fr

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread f
On 2016-01-29 16:00, Barry Warsaw wrote: From a UX perspective, I do want to allow people to log into their accounts using any of their registered and validated email addresses. People very often forget just which address is subscribed to which mailing list, so it really shouldn't matter wh

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread f
On 2016-01-29 12:56, Simon Hanna wrote: Hi, Mozilla is dropping Persona and shutting it down later this year [1]. Yeah, that's such a shame. Postorius and Hyperkitty will have to drop it, and use something else as a default login mechanism. I propose using the django authentication system

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread f
On 2016-01-29 18:50, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Simon Hanna writes: > I propose using the django authentication system by default and > making it easy for people to add other authentication methods. I think we should provide social auth (OAuth2 or whatever Google and Yahoo! do) by default.

[Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Simon Hanna writes: > I propose using the django authentication system by default and > making it easy for people to add other authentication methods. I think we should provide social auth (OAuth2 or whatever Google and Yahoo! do) by default. At least as I recall the discussion at the sprints

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > Further, I have a strong personal preference for "no user names", > or alternatively, using email addresses as their "user name". I > think user names are essentially contrived extra information for > which there's no need, when clearly your identity is your email > ad

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 29, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Simon Hanna wrote: >Postorius and Hyperkitty will have to drop it, and use something else as a >default login mechanism. > >I propose using the django authentication system by default and making it >easy for people to add other authentication methods. I don't have an

[Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread Simon Hanna
Hi, Mozilla is dropping Persona and shutting it down later this year [1]. Postorius and Hyperkitty will have to drop it, and use something else as a default login mechanism. I propose using the django authentication system by default and making it easy for people to add other authentication me

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Dropping Persona

2016-01-29 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:56:32PM +0100, Simon Hanna wrote: > Mozilla is dropping Persona and shutting it down later this year [1]. > > Postorius and Hyperkitty will have to drop it, and use something else as a > default login mechanism. > > I propose using the django authentication system by d