Re: [Mailman-Developers] Encrypted lists predictable difficulties and implementation needs

2017-03-18 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 05:30:36PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 15, 2017, at 09:47 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > >What all of this means is that once a list passes N members, where > >we can debate about N, the probability that at least one of those > >members has already been compromised ev

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Encrypted lists predictable difficulties and implementation needs

2017-03-18 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 09:54:48AM +1100, Morgan Reed wrote: > I'd submit that this is tantamount to saying "it's impossible to make a > 100% secure system so why bother even trying". Then you're not grasping my point. Let me try again. I suggest that you re-read what I've written *and* consider

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Encrypted lists predictable difficulties and implementation needs

2017-03-18 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 08:10:03PM +0100, Norbert Bollow wrote: > Even if not every device is secure, the difficulty, and likely cost, > for an attacker to snoop on the communications is much greater for an > encrypted mailing list is than for a non-encrypted one. The difficulty is greater -- but