On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:00:52 +0100
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 12:01 AM -0800 2006-01-17, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> Long time no talk. Whaddya think of adding message_id as a
>> replaceable token for footers and the like? This would allow footers
>> to
Barry,
Long time no talk. Whaddya think of adding message_id as a replaceable
token for footers and the like? This would allow footers to be
constructed which direct URL-reference their own post in an NNTP
archive.
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+1 as a hidden hook.
-0 as an exposed feature.
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smaller more privacy
critical cases.
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:03:34 +0800
pabs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this list broken, or has everyone left?
Wha?
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in federated environments.
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Mailman
m installing.
Do note that LaTeX and TeX is a plain text format and is quite human
readable, even more so than say [nrt]roff.
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x27;ll mildly disagree if the installation ball includes either
- a text or HTML version of the same data (easy enough produce via
standard TeX commands)
- a Makefile which runs the appropriate tetex commands to produce
either of the above
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:38:22 -0500
Jared Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 04:48:20PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> A good coverage of how to thread messages may be found here:
>> http://hometown.aol.com/tomyanul/grl.html
> Since nether.net
air percentage of those that do generate
References, don't do so properly.
A good coverage of how to thread messages may be found here:
http://hometown.aol.com/tomyanul/grl.html
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:07:30 -0400
Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /Should/ we require VERP? My preference would be "no".
Seconded.
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y possible to solve this problem from within
> Mailman.
Good reading on the background:
http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html
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such as MHonArc
which is particularly capable in this areas.
> ... but is there any way to make either of them behave so that the end
> user has a digest or an archive that is more readable?
Yup. See above and make sure you are running v2.1 for starters.
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can see is that she
> sends a lot of messages in French. Are there known issues with MM
> dealing with non-US characters? Or could her ISP be messing with the
> formatting somehow? I can't think of anything else. Any suggestions
> would be most appreciated.
What do the Mailma
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:57:03 -0700
John W Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/21/2004 1:14, "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> At 11:24 PM -0400 2004-09-20, J C Lawrence wrote:
>>> Are there any extant tools to detect 8bit mail (identified
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:00:22 -0400
John Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 09:38, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> Exim alas does not fall in that camp, and I need to use Exim as
>> versus Postfix due to the fine grained control it offers over
>> ex
would work, but I suspect it would be easier and more
maintainable to just steal the code from Sendmail that does the
translation and drop it into a filter under Exim.
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:11:42 +0200
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 9:38 AM -0400 2004-09-21, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> Exim alas does not fall in that camp, and I need to use Exim as
>> versus Postfix due to the fine grained control it offers over
>> ex
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:14:10 +0200
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 11:24 PM -0400 2004-09-20, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> Are there any extant tools to detect 8bit mail (identified by a
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit or not) and to suitably transform the
>&
't seem to touch it.xc
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:37:45 -0700 (PDT)
Celine Neo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I modify the .py files...
Use a standard text editor.
> ... and how do convert it to a binary program file after the
> modification?
You don't need to. Python will do that itsel
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:58:01 +0200
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 1:36 PM -0400 2004-09-12, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> Mailman supports three levels of personalisation: OFF, ON, and FULL.
>> They choose FULL, which in turn created the behaviors you report. ON
>
orts three levels of personalisation: OFF, ON, and FULL.
They choose FULL, which in turn created the behaviors you report. ON
may have been a better choice.
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http:
> Yahoo Groups.
You might like to see the current implementation of the archives at
Kanga.nu, and then read the User FAQ on how that was accomplished.
other reasonable approaches would enclude using a GMane-like setup.
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ption requires a valid address,
> the TMDA challenge would go there, too!
There's a minor detail of the envelope continuing to agree with the
From: which can hurt there, but that's a detail.
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:55:47 +0100
Nigel Metheringham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 10:41 -0400, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 11:16:05 +0100 Nigel Metheringham
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I use TMDA as a C/R system in fron
is doesn't catch much, but just
enough to glad of). In 3 years of using this system or earlier variants
of it I've had only 12 spam make it through the system. Not ideal, but
certainly a tolerable rate.
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f you also
want to maintain a reasonable level of FHS conformance.
> I've been running it from source on Red Hat, Debian and FreeBSD
> machines for many years now without too many gotchas.
I've been well pleased with the Debian packages over the last 5 years.
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l then sorry, there's just no
guaranteed correct locking methodology.
Yes, it is that bad.
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FS v4 file locks are
unenforceable and still advisory. Ditto AFS and a large host of others.
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ears to be unusually busy.
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:56:46 -0500
John Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a solution, but I but there's a better way within Mailman.
SSI and suitable use of CSS can go a lone way.
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On 19 Jul 2004 18:12:00 +0200
Michael Heydekamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> J C Lawrence wrote on 19.07.04:
>> On 19 Jul 2004 15:49:00 +0200 Michael Heydekamp
>> wrote:
> Something's wrong with your qp decoding.
Yeah, I disabled it.
>> For MIME digests, y
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:59:16 -0400
J C Lawrence wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:05:15 +0100 Nigel Metheringham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you do have an 8 bit message, and are trying to send to a non 8
>> bit recipient MTA, and will not transcode, you then ha
y) or bounce it.
Which is particularly pernicious in the case of list servers. Given
enough 8bit-bouncing MTAs a single post can unsubscribe a poster.
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On 19 Jul 2004 15:49:00 +0200
Michael Heydekamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never played with digests, but doesn't Mailman produce digests of
> type =22multipart/digest=22 with subparts of type =22message/rfc822
> (see RFC2046)?
For MIME digests, yes, but not f
7;s web UI. You're free to
replace it with anything else that appropriately modifies the various
config files.
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:00:05 -0300 (BRT)
Felipe Fonseca > wrote:
> I was thinking about a full frontend redesign for discussion lists
> using mailman, perhaps integrated to a CMS like xoops or alike,
> allowing people to:
ZMailman?
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:58:11 -0700 (PDT)
Nadim Shaikli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be nice if 'list_members' also listed all the other secondary
> info to ease exports/imports and/or list moves,
You can use with-list for that.
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ould have queue runners forking
off every N minutes, with each one opportunistically handling messages
in the queue.
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:24:11 +0200
Nick vd Kloor <@ FOR-Nation" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> Hi all, not sure anymore if there is a function or parameter to get
> your whole memberlist in a textfile. Does anyone know?
~/bin/list_members.
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; lists.
v2.x or v1.x? I thought v2 chunked the queue processing... Hurm, if it
doesn't it should and that's an easy enough fix.
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;ve not run Postfix for some years now (I'm currently
Exim-everywhere due to UID/GUI control and message rewriting issues) and
so would have to re-research the docs to give a more accurate answer.
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[EMAIL PROTE
other strongly unknown factors which are
impeding performance (no local cacheing name server, spool and log on
same ATA spindle, something).
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message for such a big list is too
>> costly,
> Someone kindly told me this makes only 0.2s /message, not 2 seconds
$ calc "152991 / 31782.241"
~4.81372600503532774797
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econds
which is quite slow. Even if you double that (receipt and transmission)
that's only 1,200 per minute which is still dawdling territory. Your
MTA should have been able to keep that spool empty while twiddling its
thumbs.
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does, and
not to the performance degree that QMail does.
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blatant about requiring plus addressing supports in the local
MTA. You know, some CAPS or something."
"Yeah, you're right that would have been better to put in CAPs or
something. But we didn't hide it, it was in the docs."
"Oh yeah."
"Wanna go get a be
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:48:21 -0700
John W Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/1/2004 9:57, "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> They can of course always gain that same time and more by simply not
>> upgrading.
> Which is decidedly NOT encou
erhaps until 2.1.6 comes out) to give people time to adjust their
> settings and systems.
They can of course always gain that same time and more by simply not
upgrading.
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f installation sites?
Mailman already currently assumes a number of non-default things about
the execution space, why not plus-addressing as well?
When is the right time?
Remember: You don't have to upgrade.
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> in big time
So you deployed a new software into production without first making
there were no negative impacts? Nice QC there.
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and maintaining many
> lists.
+1
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:10:29 +0200
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 8:21 PM -0400 2004-06-23, J C Lawrence wrote:
> The only time the VERPed address comes into play is if there is a
> bounce generated to the envelope sender address that is created by
> Mailman,
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 00:46:09 +0200
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:22 AM -0400 2004-06-19, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> Does 2.1.5 formally require plus addressing support in the MTA?
> That's only required if you let the MTA generate the VERP.
Not quite. It
On 20 Jun 2004 20:56:39 -0400
Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On 17 Jun 2004 14:36:39 -0400 Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In the absence of VERP this is far more difficult than it at first
>> se
... yet.
Does 2.1.5 formally require plus addressing support in the MTA? I
thought that was still optional if you didn't use any of the VERPish
supports. Without plus addressing properly catching the bounce as
unique is the same tarbaby.
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it like
> a bounce. If it has the word "spam" in it anywhere, it'll be treated
> like a complaint against my server, and suffer immediate
> unsubscription.
I've a minor tendency to whack entire domains that abuse the abuse@
line.
> Tweaking this stuff in mailman is
On Tue, 04 May 2004 11:40:49 -0400
Carson Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --On Tuesday, May 04, 2004 10:25 AM -0400 J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Reliably distinguishing is non-trivial.
> Incorrect. Parsing RFC-standard DSNs is trivial. I wrote the
is non-trivial.
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Mailman-Developers mail
Debian packages for some years now without problem
I'd counter this, and instead recommend just installing the appropriate
mailman package from /testing.
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than
>> ideas.
> You really think so? What code would you write without any ideas, huh?
Any decent engineer (or otherwise) can think of a thousand great ideas
an hour. There isn't a particular shortage of such. There is a
particular shortage of implementations of great ideas.
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one what's
been done so far.
> I assist Mailman community as I can, i.e. by giving my advice and my
> ideas how things could be improved.
Excellent, and thank you, however code is far more valuable than ideas.
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atures truly are
> needed, for what reason, and what size of community would best be
> served by focusing on what work.
Past an early point an easy distinguishing factor is:
Are you interested in it enough to write a patch?
Are you interested in it enough to
etti's
mimefilter in front of Mailman as that (for me) has the added advantages
of not only doing the appropriate MIME manipulations, but sending emails
back to the errant posters telling them what has been done to their
messages (ie in polite suggestion to stop).
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t if
anything can be done to meet that.
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Mailm
es turning off filtering altogether, is there any other simple
> way to get Mailman to pass multipart/alternative as-is? Stripping
> alternatives is not likely to be acceptable for the environment to
> which we would be deploying.
Sure, turn off the filter via that list's fit
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:18:33 +0100
Nick vd Kloor <@ FOR-Nation" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> Hi all, does anyone know if there's a possibility to export your
> memberlist in a file or for example excelsheet?
~/bin/list_members.
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e mail system.
I'm not sure I like the IMAP idea in toto. It is interesting, but also
seems fragile as a design, as well as moving Mailman thoroughly away
from the ideal-for-small/ignorant-sites model.
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:43:48 +
Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2003, at 14:55, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:40:48 + Richard Barrett
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... I know that Mailman developers are not interested
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:40:48 +
Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2003, at 13:32, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:12:45 + Richard Barrett
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 29 Nov 2003, at 00:48, J C Lawrence w
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:12:45 +
Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2003, at 00:48, J C Lawrence wrote:
>>> [ 850805 ] Aggressive anti email address harvesting measure
>> This patch appears to fail to distinguish between email addresses and
&g
address harvesting measure
This patch appears to fail to distinguish between email addresses and
Message IDs.
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he fly, and leave the archives unedited (as I
> think they ought to be).
+1
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y secure.
Disagreed.
> Maybe for 2.2 we could have a "completely obscure archived email
> addresses" option which changed them all to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another option, and the one I advocate, is to replace all email
addresses with TMDA-style dated addresses, much in the
n/smailman.html
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mmreencrypt/
http://www.synacklabs.net/projects/crypt-ml/
http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/PGPsendmail.html
http://shibboleth.sourceforge.net/
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regexes. Given such support
it is fairly simple to define regexes which match SpamAssassin headers
of value X and above/below for the relevant entries, or SpamBayes or
whatever.
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le to run properly on
an account behind a POP3/IMAP account (which loses all the envelope
information that TMDA depends on).
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:05:48 +0100
Martin Maechler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "J" == J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:05:45
> -0500 writes:
>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:52:07 +0100 Martin Maechler
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
&
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:52:07 +0100
Martin Maechler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My problem is that I get about 50 "Uncaught bounce notification"s per
> day, only few of which are spam/virus related.
Turn on VERP for a few d
de of the envelope, and thus can't determine reliably which
Mailman-specific address/wrapper/alias to deliver the message to.
> Doing it would probably be MTA-specific (i.e. less portable).
As of last I checked the Debian Exim packages ship with the
no-alias-file-required Mailman configs b
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:04:43 +0100
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 8:20 PM -0500 2003/10/30, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> While I don't disagree, this is really an MTA's job, not Mailman's.
>> This is why I've been doing log analysis of MXes and ro
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:21:20 +0100
Simone Piunno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alle 01:51, venerdì 31 ottobre 2003, J C Lawrence ha scritto:
>>> A test installation (or a poor man's installation) will fetch
>>> messages from pop3 mailboxes...
>> Hell no.
rather not have to hand it a couple of meg of recipient or
> substitution data, but there seems to be no other way.
> So what can we do here to improve matters?
Start yelling at DJB, Wietse, Phillip, and Eric about a standardised
SMTP extension for VERP. With a lit
re than one address in the envelope.
Scary, stupid, true: They want the pain to stop. I find it hard to
blame them.
> I also don't think it allows for the kind of personalization that's
> needed for your general audiences (help URLs, unsub URls, etc).
Aye, such VERPish at
t Mailman to be a bit more reasonable and
forgiving about their not-so-brilliant systems.
[1] That's of course assuming reasonable sustained queue size and
responsive MXes. However, those are separate problems and ignoring
MTA-specific behaviours (like Exim's active hatred of large
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:45:32 +0100
Simone Piunno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 30 October 2003 05:17, J C Lawrence wrote:
>>> ...as well as implement a bulk mailer to eliminate the need for an
>>> outgoing mail server.
>> Eeeek! I trust this wo
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:51:27 -0500
Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 13:30, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> 2) Message IDs are not guaranteed globally unique, but the collision
>> rate can be manageable/acceptable in a large number of deployment
&
crossposting. I don't think we can due to per-list
customisations.
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.
3) A discussed format is putting the mesasges on the filesystem (as a
BD), and the meta data in a different DB (primarily due to
open(2)/stat(2) expense.
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:04:19 +0100
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 12:40 AM -0500 2003/10/30, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> I've already said my bits there and proposed what I see as the cheap,
>> easy, incremental improvement course: Twisted's NNTP supports
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:15:35 -0500
Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 00:08, J C Lawrence wrote:
>> Hang-on. Apache isn't the target. Mailman's UI is a CGI app. As
>> such it works with any web server that supports CGI-bin, whi
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:56:29 -0500
J C Lawrence wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 05:51:32 +0100 Brad Knowles
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm sorry, I don't trust ReiserFS at all. I'd trust XFS if it was on
>> Irix, or IBMs JFS, but not ReiserFS. Hel
ly supported option?
Err, want or consider reasonable?
> My understanding is that ext3fs is dead.
I'd thought that Ted T'so took over some of the reins in his move to
IBM, but I haven't chatted to him in a long whiles.
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J C Lawrence
-(*)
larly well here. I haven't yet tested IBM's
JFS. Last time I hit VxFS hard (back in the HP-UX 20.20 days) it really
didn't like huge directories, but that may have changed since then.
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J C Lawrence
-(*)Satan, oscillate my metal
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:31:51 -0800
Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 2003, at 9:21 PM, J C Lawrence wrote:
> How's taht all relate to Mailman, anyway? Maybe we should refocus and
> not wander down interesting but entirely philosophical ratholes?
Agreed
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:41:37 -0500
Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 23:17, J C Lawrence wrote:
> Sounds great. Bring a laptop and we'll bang out some code (anyone
> else up for a mini-Mailman-3 sprint at my house? :). I'll probably be
&g
ame online), and I don't think any of the original Internet
> Mail Development team members are left, either.
Eeek. Not fun.
> I've been down this road before. Trust me, you don't want to do this.
Barry, listen to this man. He speaks sooth.
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