Re: [Mailman-Developers] [gpg] encrypted list management plug-in

2015-11-11 Thread Stefan Schlott
Hi, > from calafou hacklab & friends we wanted to reimplement schleuder in > python. speaking and speaking we arrived at the conclusion that maybe > writing a plug-in for Mailman 3 could be a good solution: we contribute > to a great project and we have encrypt mailing list for hacktivist people.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Some Doubts for GSoC Project

2013-08-18 Thread Stefan Schlott
Hi, I had a few doubts regarding the project, I din't see any reply on mm-dev so I mailed separately. Firstly what address should be used to create the keys for the lists? I was of the opinion that list' posting address should be used like 'mailman-developers@python.org' for mm-dev list.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-29 Thread Stefan Schlott
On 29.04.2013 11:40, Ian Eiloart wrote: Also, what kind of secure list would have automated processing of message content as a requirement? imho you're asking the wrong question ;-) _All_ network communication should be encrypted, it is a pity that mail encryption is so little adopted. If a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-27 Thread Stefan Schlott
On 27.04.2013 06:45, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: 2. Your list has elevated security requirements. In this case, you can use gpg-agent to manage the secret key (and its passphrase). I don't understand what threat you propose to address in this way. It's true that you can prevent the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-26 Thread Stefan Schlott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25.04.2013 15:35, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: abhilash might have meant that there is a concern that a decrypted message could be stored *on disk* in one of the queues, not just in memory. Of course, it's a good idea to decrypt the data as

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-26 Thread Stefan Schlott
On 25.04.2013 21:10, Abhilash Raj wrote: Abhilash, i don't see any mention in your proposal of how you plan to deal with the secret key material. will there be a way for mailman to use a secret key that is stored in a password-protected form? If so, how? Well I am not quite proficient in

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-26 Thread Stefan Schlott
On 26.04.2013 20:55, Terri Oda wrote: I've been wondering about that... is there any time when the encrypted message on disk would be available but the private key not? As already pointed out, there are (at least) two ways to avoid an unprotected secret key (or the corresponding pass phrase,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration

2013-04-25 Thread Stefan Schlott
On 25.04.2013 00:14, Abhilash Raj wrote: 1) When a message is decrypted and then passed on between the queues, it creates a security threat for the cleartext message is being held in memory, even for a small time in between the runners. The Mailman server holds the key to decrypt _every_

Re: [Mailman-Developers] OpenPGP Integration on GSoC

2013-04-11 Thread Stefan Schlott
On 11.04.2013 06:19, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: I am Joost van Baal-Ilić. I create a PGP keypair with ID Barry Warsaw. I sent the public key to the list server. I sent a mail, signed with the Barry-key, encrtypted to the listkey, with From: Barry's email address, to the list. The

Re: [Mailman-Developers] OpenPGP Integration on GSoC

2013-04-11 Thread Stefan Schlott
On 11.04.2013 14:35, Richard Damon wrote: Next problem: Mailman will have to decrypt the message and re-encrypt it for each recipient. This also strips the signature of the original sender. How do you show to the recipients that the original message was signed (in a way which cannot be forged

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman-pgp-smime: talks at FOSDEM and in Ulm, new release

2009-01-09 Thread Stefan Schlott
Hi, On monday january 12 I'll talk at the Chaos Seminar/a in Ulm, Germany, see http://ulm.ccc.de/ChaosSeminar/2009/01_Mailman_PGP_SMIME . Very cool! I wish I could be there. The CCC team of Ulm usually records these talks on video (although it sometimes takes some time until they are

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Crypto-sign to post

2006-11-13 Thread Stefan Schlott
Hi, I suppose you could also have each mailing list publish a pubkey and require that messages be encrypted with that pubkey in order to get posted. Now there's something which I'm sure it's a small subset of people would be interested in, but it would definitely be nice.. the ability

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Crypto-sign to post

2006-11-09 Thread Stefan Schlott
Re-hi, I brought this up on the Cairo mailing list recently http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/cairo/2006-November/008345.html and Carl Worth brought up the idea of a simple option to accept any post that's cryptographically signed, regardless of subscriber status. I liked this idea for

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PGP and Mailman

2005-03-02 Thread Stefan Schlott
Hi, Stefan: thanks a lot for publishing your patch! Of course, this is _very_ helpful! Great to hear that :-) This will create huge messages in large MLs. Further, this will reveal all recipients' key ids - something not wanted in anonymous lists. Imho the tradeoff lies somewhere inbetween -

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PGP and Mailman

2005-03-02 Thread Stefan Schlott
Nigel Metheringham wrote: In theory, you could encrypt the message once with a session key, and then distribute it n times, each time adding the packet which has the session key encrypted with the public key of the recipient. ...which is the very thing making gpg encryption so slow :-) The

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PGP and Mailman

2005-03-02 Thread Stefan Schlott
Brad Knowles wrote: Further, this will reveal all recipients' key ids - something not wanted in anonymous lists. True. A session key would be encrypted to each key id, so the key ids would be visible. However, subscriber information is not too

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PGP and Mailman

2005-03-01 Thread Stefan Schlott
Hi Joost, I will write and publish a patch which integrates PGP signature validation and re-encryption of encrypted posts to mailman. Specs are: Don't duplicate work which has already been done :-) I made modifications to mailman 2.1.5 for encrypted mailinglists, but I kept quiet for testing.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PGP and Mailman

2005-03-01 Thread Stefan Schlott
Hi, Have either of you solved the problem of Mailman not preserving white space in the message body? This kind of thing is death to messages signed or encrypted with PGP, and I have yet to hear of anyone who has addressed this issue. As already mentioned, I didn't cover the sign-only case;