ense, but this shouldn't be necessary for point releases, and should rarely
make a difference for major releases (yours was an unlucky case, it seems.
Also, old Mailman wasn't as easily upgradeable as Mailman 2.x :-)
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against it, because there is a real difference between, for instance,
English for the British and English for the Americans. Calling it English
(USA) at least makes it clear which version it is, even if there isn't
(yet) a British variant. Or is there ?
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--with-var-prefix arguments to configure. The default paths, including the
cgi-bin path, and how you can change them, are all explained in the
installation manual. The cgi-bin path is {prefix}/cgi-bin by default (so, if
you have Mailman 2.1 and the default $prefix, it would be
/usr/local/mailman/c
ehm, late afternoon american time.
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Sprint-at-PyCon-Barry-ly y'rs :)
[*] 'NSA' is also the reason I'm not as active as I once was... I hate Perl,
much more so now than before I actually used it full-time. But, I get to
go to PyCon, so I haven't lost my soul completely yet :)
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each email before or
during archiving. Also note that I've not followed Mailman development in a
while, so I may be horribly wrong, sorry. :)
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or instance; not because we like to have large Cc:
lists, but because we like to educate our employees... preferably loudly
and with blunt objects. :)
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z P3, 1Gb RAM, U160-SCSI, FreeBSD) so
that isn't too suprising.
If that isn't the problem, your best bet is to keep an eye on the system.
'iostat' (need to install it separately on Linux, I think) and 'vmstat' can
deliver a lot of useful info about why a task is taking so
like Apache's 'layout' system, where one of the layouts can be
'FHS' :-)
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> Several people using my mailman use Microsoft exchange server,
> which sends it the "wrong" way. For them the message looks
> like an empty message, with a "message" as attachment.
What version of Mailman are you using ?
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port Bouncer
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 29, in ?
> from mimelib.RFC822 import RFC822
> ImportError: No module named RFC822
> What should I do?
Probably update your 'mimelib' version. 0.4 is now required.
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the following thread:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2001-June/004420.html
You can also find a fix there :-)
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.py, function listinfo_overview(). I believe Barry
is reluctant to fix it because of possible breakage (people might have made
template files with the (Headfull)Document in mind.) Barry ? :)
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eir upgrade.
> That's an acceptable upgrade cost.
No Currently, the Sender and Return-Path headers (or the 'From ' header,
if you wish) get set to list-admin, not list-bounce. Changing it to
list-bounce will screw up every one of my mailman-list-filters, and I'm not
the o
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:45:35PM +0200, Vizi Szilard wrote:
> Thomas Wouters wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:42:29PM +0200, Vizi Szilard wrote:
> > > Mailman in the new directory working almost perfectly, but when I click
> > > to a link the url would be lik
s, if our net
> is working. The bad weathers ruined our network early on this week.)
Try editing 'DEFAULT_URL' in Mailman/Defaults.py.
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> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:34:02 -0400 (EDT)
> Dale Newfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Thomas Wouters wrote:
> >> Maildir works by making every message a file on its own. A
&g
; link. Should
it download the maildir mailbox, or generate an mbox one on demand ? The
maildir mailbox is *very* useful for incremental updates, since all that
takes is checking which files you've already read. But, like I said, it's
not as widely supported as the crappy ol' mbox format
/netrants/mailman-password.txt
You missed the other aspect of the monthly reminders: informing people what
lists they're subscribed to. I don't care about getting my most-insecure
password mailed to me, but I do very much care about the overview of lists
I'm subscribed to, lest I
ht :)
Well, what do you expect from a guy who speaks no foreign (to him)
languages, and whose idea of l10n is microbrew and a special kind of crab...
I think it's admirable that he hasn't given up in despair, yet ;)
I-would-have-and-I-speak-and-write-4-foreign-languages-ly y'rs ;
: functional) release. My
cheat is easier, especially when running multiple Mailmans on the same
machine :)
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27;make install', and configured/installed Apache and
Sendmail (or whatever MTA you use) will make sense of the installation
instructions.
If you really need someone to set it up, I'd be willing to, but you have to
consider maintenance issues -- it's a lot more convenient, for you, if the
ch off of
the 1Gbit (ethernet over dark fiber) links we have connected to our uplinks
and multitude of peers ;)
Unfortunately for me, there's a big appartement building smack in the middle
of *my* line of sight to the office so I'll have to make do with a puny
33k6 analogue leased line unti
actly what happened. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw BSD make
and GNU make attach the exact opposite meaning to $@ and $<, but I didn't
think to search for redundant definitions ! I think $< is still a
GNU-makeism, but I can live with requiring GNU make for building catalogs
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:06:49AM -0700, Thomas Wouters wrote:
> Re-BSDify the Makefiles, by not expecting make to expand '{eggs,ham}' in
> globs. (BSD 'make' does not, GNU make does.) I'm sure there is a more
> satisfying way to do this, but in this case, wi
part of CGI, not the response part. If you use something
like HTMLgen, it depends on what Document you generate. So it should be
stated, either explicitly or implicitly, somewhere in your code.
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> datbases.
> You can find it in the archives, or I can mail you the most recent
> working version.
I think that would be *perfect*. Mailers is exactly one of Sendmail's
fortes, and very useful if you know how to use them (we do, for various uhm,
'creative systems' :) I'
because I don't want to have to include a
> setuid-root script, the Postfix.py module doesn't call `postfix
> reload'. This command has to be done as root. The tradeoff is that
> Postfix will take about a minute to recognize its alias database has
> changed. To me tha
people I really *was* a nice guy,
but I still stood by my pedantic point. Some of them were on python-dev,
even :)
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damned easy to test, though: disable the filter, make a new digest list,
subscribe yourself to it, and mail ;)
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to digest. Only the one that was being processed when you pressed ^C *might*
be screwed up.
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userbase, but INN's older and probably still larger. You're likely to find
good FAQs and HOWTO's for both.
> We're running a FreeBSD box if that matters.
Well, at XS4ALL we run a news setup of 10+ machines, all running Diablo on
FreeBSD, and they do it very, very
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ts own stuff.) I suggested a fix a few months back (our own webdesign
departement ran into the same bug) but Barry rejected it -- I don't recall
why. Maybe because he was afraid it'd break too many websites out there.
Barry ?
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return wrap(text)
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On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:18:38PM +0200, Thomas Wouters wrote:
> I suggest you upload it to Sourceforge, which is where Mailman is hosed.
What a wicked, wicked typo! I meant to say 'hosted'. Really I did!
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rceforge, which is where
Mailman is hosed. Submit enough sensible patches and you might get CVS
write access, eventually ;)
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And upload it as a context or unified diff, please. (use diff -c or diff -u.
I prefer -c myself, and Barry should too ;)
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On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:28:39AM +0100, Ricardo Kustner wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 10:39:48PM +0100, Thomas Wouters wrote:
> > Your lines seem to be wrapped at character 100 or so. Doesn't bother me,
> > my editor (which, contrary to vi, is a real editor ) do
on, Python is definately easier.
> ps: sorry if my mesage is a bit messy; I have to get used to using mutt+vi
> again... I've given up my search for a stable gui mail client for now
> (again ;))
Your lines seem to be wrapped at character 100 or so. Doesn't bother me, my
e
it in *that* many different ways :)
Usually just in one, even. Even pipermail is fairly standard python code, if
you refactor some of the functions and fix the whitespace usage.
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usr/local/lib/python1.6/posixpath.py", line 319
> _varprog = re.compile(r'\$(\w+|\{[^}]*\})')
> ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
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Python library for use with normal scripts. I'm definately for it :)
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permissions. You should just use a setuid mailman wrapper
script that does caller-checking to see if it's called correctly, by the
right user, and with 'safe' values.
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On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:35:32PM +0100, Detlef Neubauer wrote:
> Thomas Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:11:41PM -0500, Mentor Cana wrote:
> >
> > > Here is the error I get when attempting to approve subscription Request
will have to bring out a 2.0.3, sigh. My typo. You can fix
it manually by changing line 331 of ListAdmin.py to 'except
Errors.MMAlreadyAMember:'. Note the extra 'A' between 'Already' and
'Member'. It's fixed in the current CVS tree as well as the 2.0
obs. I'm pretty certain
Barry would accept a patch that implemented it, and if not, I'd rewrite it
to suit his wishes and slip it in when he's not looking :)
Of course, I also have two other fulltime jobs ;P
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Barry wanted to do in the
first place :) One suggestion: if you care about your mailbox, *do not run
qrunner from cron*. It will generate an error-email every minute. Not Fun
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On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 08:06:12AM -0700, Webmaster wrote:
> I have Mailman 2.0, would it be fine to install the patch Mailman 2.02
> or do I first have to install Mailman 2.0.1
The patch is from Mailman 2.0.1 to 2.0.2, so you need to apply the 2.0.1
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testing, and more yet before it's stable. It may have something to do with
the missing readline support in python2, though -- the disabling of modules
people might depend on falls under backwards compatibility again :)
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:22:11PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
> >>>>> "TW" == Thomas Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> TW> It should, probably, but it doesn't work for the scripts in
> TW> bin/... Not sure why that is. Barry ?
is currently not compatible with debian.
That's not the reason for the python<->python2 difference, or at least
shouldn't be. If the licence isn't right, python2 shouldn't be distributed
at all ;) The name change is to avoid breakage in running scripts, because
of a few subt
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:50:13PM +0100, Fil wrote:
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> > The README clearly states what version of Python you need to run Mailman.
> > It currently says:
> >
> > Mailman requires Python 2.0 or greater, which can
rrently says:
Mailman requires Python 2.0 or greater, which can be downloaded
from [...]
Future versions will probably require Python 2.1 ;)
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t;import spam, parrot, ham, creosote, voom, _, bucket', which would work.
> Errors.py just says "import Mailman.i18n" So that means it's not
> importing _? Can it use it explicitly? Because what it does is a
> "rejection=Mailman.i18n._('text')"
Yes
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 09:19:00PM -0500, Ron Jarrell wrote:
> At 11:00 PM 2/16/01 +0100, Thomas Wouters wrote:
> >A quick grep through a fresh tree gives me this handy (for Barry and for
> >those that run pre-alpha Mailmans on production machines :-) list:
> Ok, I went
ist
find . -type f -print | xargs fgrep -l 'import _' | diff -u - list | fgrep +
and ignoring the .gz files.)
It's probably safe to assume that anything that imports gettext needs to be
modified to import _ explicitly, but I'll let Barry draw that conclusion :-)
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