On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:48:21 -0700
John W Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/1/2004 9:57, "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> They can of course always gain that same time and more by simply not
>> upgrading.
> Which is decidedly NOT encouraged by this snippet from Barry's 2.1.5
>
On 7/1/2004 9:57, "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:46:47 -0700
> somuchfun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> J.C., I agree with you that there is never a right time. BUT, when
>> introducing a new feature (like mailman did with the VERP bounce
>> probes) it is wise
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:46:47 -0700
somuchfun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> J.C., I agree with you that there is never a right time. BUT, when
> introducing a new feature (like mailman did with the VERP bounce
> probes) it is wise to have the option to turn this feature off
> (perhaps until 2.1.6 c
J.C., I agree with you that there is never a right time. BUT, when
introducing a new feature (like mailman did with the VERP bounce probes) it
is wise to have the option to turn this feature off (perhaps until 2.1.6
comes out) to give people time to adjust their settings and systems.
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:04:14 -0700
somuchfun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The issue is not whether it was obvious or not, the issue is that this
> new feature cannot even be turned off, just changed to a different
> format. Since there are many configurations out there that might not
> work wit
The issue is not whether it was obvious or not, the issue is that this new
feature cannot even be turned off, just changed to a different format.
Since there are many configurations out there that might not work with VERP
I find introducing a feature that is on by default and that cannot be turned
At 1:14 AM -0700 2004-06-25, Somuchfun wrote:
Oh, we did test it for a while but this is the kind of problem that you
do not encounter lightly in a test environment. And on top it would have
helped if the mailman dev team would have published this major change in
bounce processing!
They did.
At 3:44 AM -0700 2004-06-24, Somuchfun wrote:
This new VERP probe is ridiculous.
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Not a good thing at all and the complaints from customers are coming in
big time
As JC correctly said (mea culpa), it does require support from
the MTA. If your MTA doesn't support
Oh, we did test it for a while but this is the kind of problem that you
do not encounter lightly in a test environment. And on top it would have
helped if the mailman dev team would have published this major change in
bounce processing!
> -Original Message-
> From: J C Lawrence [mailto:[EM
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:44:32 -0700
somuchfun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This new VERP probe is ridiculous. One of my customer on a cpanel
> system had thousands of unsubscribes because of it. Why? Cpanel does
> not support in its current default exim setting VERP and there was no
> need for it
This new VERP probe is ridiculous. One of my customer on a cpanel system
had thousands of unsubscribes because of it. Why? Cpanel does not
support in its current default exim setting VERP and there was no need
for it because it is not on by default in mailman. Now out of the blue
it is used even th
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