Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:06:22PM +, Ian Eiloart wrote: > > So its an HTTP GET - which is supposed to be idempotent. I know a > > while back there was discussion of SpamAssassin modules which > > evaluated linked webpages for spamminess - presumably that action > > would clear someone off th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

--On 6 March 2008 19:43:04 + Nigel Metheringham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 6 Mar 2008, at 17:51, Ian Eiloart wrote: >> So, a 1-click unsub is a link in the message footer which takes you >> to a >> page that says something like "You've unsubscribed from our list, >> sorry to >> see y

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

On 6 Mar 2008, at 17:51, Ian Eiloart wrote: > So, a 1-click unsub is a link in the message footer which takes you > to a > page that says something like "You've unsubscribed from our list, > sorry to > see you go"? So its an HTTP GET - which is supposed to be idempotent. I know a while back

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

Aaron Crosman writes: > Sounds like what you're describing is a more complete CRM. Personally, > I don't think Mailman should head in that direction, there are perfectly > good CRM's for NPO's out there (like CiviCRM). He is talking about a more complete CRM, but we need that anyway because o

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Eiloart Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:51 PM To: Barry Warsaw; Dan MacNeil Cc: Mailman Developers; Stephen J. Turnbull Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe A note on unsubscription

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

--On 5 March 2008 18:16:53 -0500 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I generally don't like 1-click unsubs but I recognize that this is an > important use case in the real world, and it's probably better to have > the risk of people getting unsub'd against their will than to have the > e

[Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 08:25:49PM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Any objections to changing the URL in the RFC 2369 List-Unsubscribe: > header to the above - for 2.1.10? I could probably also suppress the > "Error: No address given" message unless you came from options login > page itself. I like th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Any objections to changing the URL in the RFC 2369 List-Unsubscribe: > header to the above - for 2.1.10? I could probably also suppress the > "Error: No address given" message unless you came from opti

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Terri Oda wrote: | We actually | already have a separate page, that's just not linked: try looking at | the options page without an email address and it's almost exactly | what users would probably want: | | http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mail

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

On 4-Mar-08, at 11:15 AM, Cristóbal Palmer wrote: > IMHO, moving the "unsubscribe or edit options" to the top of the > listinfo page or making it its own page by default would go a long way > towards alleviating this problem. +1 Most of my problems went away when I changed it so "unsubscribe" was

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 4, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Cristóbal Palmer wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:31:03PM -0500, Dan MacNeil wrote: >> Since 2005, things have gotten a bit more ruthless on the >> anti-spam front, Particularly at the large providers so > > lists.i

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 2, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Then my next question is do you have experience with lists that do > implement a 1-click unsubscribe, and do you find it actually works? My > experience (see >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Dan MacNeil wrote: > However, lots of people use it for newsletters/announcements > because it is the tool at hand. Adding things like 1-click > unsubscribe will make mailman a better tool for these accidental > uses and (a

[Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:31:03PM -0500, Dan MacNeil wrote: > Since 2005, things have gotten a bit more ruthless on the > anti-spam front, Particularly at the large providers so lists.ibiblio.org currently hosts 566 lists. We are constantly having to deal with mail providers who blacklist us

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

> Dan MacNeil wrote: >> [snip] >> current unsubscribe process take 5 steps: >> >> 1) Click >> 2) enter email >> 3) click submit >> 4) read email >> 5) reply to email [snip] > > I hear what you're saying, and I'm not trying to avoid your request, > but I want to point out

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

> Then my next question is do you have experience with lists that do > implement a 1-click unsubscribe, and do you find it actually works? > My experience (see developers/2005-February/017851.html>) is that it doesn't work well, > but I'm willing to l

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

Dan MacNeil wrote: > >The subscribers to these lists are generally not very computer >friendly. Because the current unsubscribe process take 5 steps: > > 1) Click > 2) enter email > 3) click submit > 4) read email > 5) reply to email > >...a lot of subscribers to thes

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 1-click unsubscribe

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: [snip] >>> BTW, a look at the patch suggests it's >>> incomplete; I couldn't find any >>> templates for headers and footers, nor >>> documentation for how to generate the >>> 1-click unsubscribe button. Somebody else writes >> Please, stop looking for reasons why n