RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

At 12:45 PM -0500 2004/01/24, Barry Warsaw wrote: Did you publish any of this? I'd like to read it. Nope. All private conversations with Eric and Bryan. Unfortunately, I've lost all mailboxes I had while I was at AOL, so I can't pull those messages back up. Sorry, guy. ;-( Mailman 3 wil

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 11:50, John A. Martin wrote: > Hmm... dunno, but perhaps XFORWARD as in postfix->filter->postfix. > Found in recent snapshots and promised with improved documentation for > 2.1. Interesting. That's a possible approach, although Exim's ability to embed an interpreter in the M

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 16:04, Somuchfun wrote: > Brad, > I did some testing with a 50,000 members list and the time it takes to send > when using personalization is twice as long (8hrs instead of 4). This is not surprising given Chuq's analysis. > Of course that is bad news. I also tested some oth

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 19:31, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 6:56 PM -0500 2004/01/22, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > > I had been thinking along the lines of the language for specifying the > > data source as a db connection and a SQL command. > > We were working on a method to send a specially MIME-f

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

At 1:04 PM -0800 2004/01/23, Somuchfun wrote: I did some testing with a 50,000 members list and the time it takes to send when using personalization is twice as long (8hrs instead of 4). Not surprising. See . Of course th

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

ary 22, 2004 3:21 PM > To: Barry Warsaw > Cc: Brad Knowles; Somuchfun; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman > generated mails > > At 5:50 PM -0500 2004/01/22, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > > Nigel can provide details, but I think th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

>>>>> "baw" == Barry Warsaw >>>>> "RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails" >>>>> Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:50:33 -0500 baw> I don't think Postfix has the same embedding capabilities, baw> a

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

At 6:56 PM -0500 2004/01/22, Barry Warsaw wrote: I had been thinking along the lines of the language for specifying the data source as a db connection and a SQL command. We were working on a method to send a specially MIME-formatted message to identify the various potential bodyparts, a list o

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 18:21, Brad Knowles wrote: > This is similar to what Eric Allman (at that time, before > Sendmail Inc. existed), Bryan Costales (at the time, working for > InfoBeat/Mercury Mail), and I (working at AOL) were discussing back > in 1996, in the creation of a Mail-Merge

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

At 5:50 PM -0500 2004/01/22, Barry Warsaw wrote: Nigel can provide details, but I think the same embedding feature could be used to have the MTA do the final stitching of content template and personalized data. It would be A Project to hack together, but I think it could be a neat idea to pla

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 21:21, Brad Knowles wrote: > As part of the message personalization, add the appropriate > per-user information in the template footer for the list. That > should hopefully deal with the problem. I should mention that Mailman 2.1's full personalization support (as o

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

At 4:46 PM -0800 2004/01/21, Somuchfun wrote: Is there a problem to send out the emails one by one with individual To: addresses and then add a header or a mail merge field in the footer without creating bounce addresses that most MTA do not allow or understand? No MTA ever created should ever

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 11:56, Somuchfun wrote: > Hello Barry, > Let me try to explain why the additional header is so important. > When you use large lists with lots of traffic to AOL they can set you on > something that is called an "feedback loop". This loop creates automated > emails from AOL's p

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:24 PM > To: Somuchfun > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Barry Warsaw' > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman > generated mails > > At 2:56 PM -0800 2004/01/21, Somuchfun wrote: > > > Of course I could just

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

At 2:56 PM -0800 2004/01/21, Somuchfun wrote: Of course I could just add a mail merge code in the footer of the message but that only seems to work with full VERP enabled in mailman and the slowdown is so dramatic that it is no longer feasible for a list of 50,000 or more. If you're not using

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

l Message- > From: Barry Warsaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:28 PM > To: Somuchfun > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman > generated mails > > On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 15:30, Somuchfun wrote: &

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 15:30, Somuchfun wrote: > I have a problem that might affect lots of people who send emails to large > lists. > AOL requires an additional header in the emails identifying the recipient > for the feedback loops to unsubscribe AOL users who complain. > So how do I add an additi

[Mailman-Developers] Adding headers to mailman generated mails

I have a problem that might affect lots of people who send emails to large lists. AOL requires an additional header in the emails identifying the recipient for the feedback loops to unsubscribe AOL users who complain. So how do I add an additional header with a field? Thanks for all the help! __