Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-22 Thread Daniel Buchmann
While reading the article by Paul Graham, something came to my mind; what will happen if the user is not english? Let's say 99.99% of all spam is in english (which is my experience), and my mother tongue is norwegian. ;) Let's also say that I usually never receive mails written in english. The B

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-22 Thread JC Dill
On 02:37 PM 8/17/02, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: >On 8/17/02 12:37 PM, "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Keep thinking about it. In essence it is a merely a finer grained >> scoring system. It doesn't fundamentally change the spam cold war; > >Actually, I think it does fundamental

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-17 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/17/02 12:37 PM, "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keep thinking about it. In essence it is a merely a finer grained > scoring system. It doesn't fundamentally change the spam cold war; Actually, I think it does fundamentally change it. You're not just making better guesses at wh

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-17 Thread J C Lawrence
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:10:45 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > Damn, I wish I'd thought of this. Keep thinking about it. In essence it is a merely a finer grained scoring system. It doesn't fundamentally change the spam cold war; i

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-17 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Cool! Depending on how adventurous you are, you may want to >> check out Python 2.3's cvs. Jack Jansen's been doing a lot of >> work on providing Carbon support for Python, CVR> Not THAT adventurous. This is a serv

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Satya
On Aug 17, 2002 at 00:38, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: >That's okay, I'm going to shame Tim Peters into building an ultra >efficient Python version, which we'll just wrap in the MM handler API >and be done with it. :) But... but... what will *I* use? On Aug 16, 2002 at 21:55, Darrell Fuhriman wrote:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/16/02 9:42 PM, "Barry A. Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool! Depending on how adventurous you are, you may want to check out > Python 2.3's cvs. Jack Jansen's been doing a lot of work on providing > Carbon support for Python, Not THAT adventurous. This is a server, so it won't be d

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Satya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > don't deactivate me!) thingy which'll be called from procmail, and > another perl thingy which'll be called from crontab ... well, never > mind the details. Yah, I threw it together this afternoon, too. Sorry, guys, I did it in perl, too.  I'm just trying to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> Which is perfect timing, because I've installed jaguar on my CVR> new test server, and I'm going to spend time this weekend CVR> building out the environment, which means sometime in the CVR> next few days, I'm goin

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "S" == Satya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: S> Sounds very cool and usable. I've started hacking up a Perl S> (please don't deactivate me!) thingy which'll be called from S> procmail, and another perl thingy which'll be called from S> crontab ... well, never mind the details.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Satya
Sounds very cool and usable. I've started hacking up a Perl (please don't deactivate me!) thingy which'll be called from procmail, and another perl thingy which'll be called from crontab ... well, never mind the details. I'm stuck on the Bayesian probability thing. What is what? Pr{X

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/16/02 5:40 PM, "Barry A. Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I actually think we're getting really close, and I'm psyched about all > the great feedback I'm getting on beta 3. I'll probably release a > beta 4 this weekend, and then I want to get serious about a > release schedule. Which i

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/16/02 3:17 PM, "John W Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find it fascinating that the last URL reference at the bottom (yes, I > read that far) is to the page at Apple's site describing the filtering in > Apple's revised Mail.app in Mac OS X 10.2. Yeah. In all honesty? When I sent stuf

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> Cory Doctorow sent me this link: CVR> The king-hell Bayesian libraries are Andrew McCallum's Bag Of CVR> Words (BOW) stuff, which is all GPLed: CVR> http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~mccallum/bow/ CVR> A GPLed Bayesia

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "RJ" == Ron Jarrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RJ> At 06:39 PM 8/16/02 -0400, you wrote: >> On a serious note, who's gonna hack up the Python code for an >> MM2.1 prototype handler module? RJ> Please tell me that means "a module designed to fit into the RJ> 2.1 plugi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/16/02 5:30 PM, "Ron Jarrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (I've dropped a pointer to it at >> http://www.chuqui.com/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?tid=389) > > > Yea, I read that... It really started wheels turning in my head. Now, if I'd > coded > in lisp more recently than 20 years ago it w

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Ron Jarrell
At 06:39 PM 8/16/02 -0400, you wrote: >On a serious note, who's gonna hack up the Python code for an MM2.1 >prototype handler module? Please tell me that means "a module designed to fit into the 2.1 plugin architecture, that could be distributed in a post 2.1-final release" and not, cool as it

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Ron Jarrell
At 01:10 PM 8/16/02 -0700, you wrote: >Hey, all. > >Take a look at this -- > > > >It's a new technique for identifying spam. The more I look into the details, >the more I think we have the "anti-spam killer app", becaues it tunes itself >to the individual (or

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> CVR> It's a new technique for identifying spam. The more I look CVR> into the details, the more I think we have the "anti-spam CVR> killer app", becaues it tunes itself to the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread John W Baxter
At 13:10 -0700 8/16/2002, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: >Take a look at this -- > > > >It's a new technique for identifying spam. The more I look into the details, >the more I think we have the "anti-spam killer app", becaues it tunes itself >to the individual (or si

[Mailman-Developers] Anti-spam "killer app"?

2002-08-16 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
Hey, all. Take a look at this -- It's a new technique for identifying spam. The more I look into the details, the more I think we have the "anti-spam killer app", becaues it tunes itself to the individual (or site), adapts as the anti-spammers adapt, and