Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/25/2014 08:41 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Aurelien Bompard writes: > > > I suggest we leave the member's moderation_action on None when it's > > created, and modify the moderation rules to go look for the list's default > > setting if the member's value is None. > > I think this is

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 26, 2014, at 07:18 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 11/25/2014 10:20 PM, Andrew Partan wrote: >> Say you have a list where a large argument breaks out. I want to >> change the list to moderated for a while until everyone calms down. >> Then change it back to unmoderated. There are some people w

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 25, 2014, at 08:59 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >MM 2.1 does have an additional capability in the web UI, namely the >ability to set all members mod bits on or off with an off/on radio >selection and a single click. Thus, an admin can change >default_member_moderation to No or Yes and with a coup

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/25/2014 10:20 PM, Andrew Partan wrote: > Say you have a list where a large argument breaks out. I want to > change the list to moderated for a while until everyone calms down. > Then change it back to unmoderated. There are some people who are > always moderated and others who are always un

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-26 Thread Andrew Partan
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 04:05:13PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > MM3 collapses that so that rather than having a flag with a fallback action, > each member just has an action. This allows you more flexibility in > controlling an individual member's posting privileges, at the cost of having > to cha

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/25/2014 01:05 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > I think this does work differently in MM2.1, but that version's schema isn't > really sophisticated enough to do anything different. There, members have a > moderation flag which gets initialized from default_member_moderation. Then, > if the membe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 25, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: >As a result, unless I'm missing something changing, the list's >default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members. Do I >understand correctly? That is correct. As Steve points out, the intent is that this setting is initialization

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Damon
On 11/25/14, 5:46 AM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: Hi *, I'd like to discuss the algorithm we use to enforce a list's default moderation action. Here's what I understand: - the list's default_moderation_action setting is stored in the database and can be changed via the REST interface - when a new me

[Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Aurelien Bompard writes: > I suggest we leave the member's moderation_action on None when it's > created, and modify the moderation rules to go look for the list's default > setting if the member's value is None. I think this is a bad idea. From the subscriber's perspective, it changes the li

[Mailman-Developers] Changing the default_moderation_action has no effect on existing members

2014-11-25 Thread Aurelien Bompard
Hi *, I'd like to discuss the algorithm we use to enforce a list's default moderation action. Here's what I understand: - the list's default_moderation_action setting is stored in the database and can be changed via the REST interface - when a new member is created, its moderation_action is import