Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code

2017-02-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/11/2017 12:54 AM, Sukeesh V wrote: > > When I tried to run postorius django server. I got this error ( Screenshot > attached ). I am running on Arch Linux. Postorius can't connect to Mailman core. Mailman core must be running and the port defined in the [webservice] section of var/etc/mai

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of code

2015-03-12 Thread Abhilash Raj
Hi Akshay, Thanks Yash for replying! On 11 March 2015 at 23:50, Akshay Nath.R wrote: > Hi, my name is AkshayNath R. I am a computer science engineering student > from India. I would like to code for GNU mailman this summer. From project > ideas i have found two of them interesting > > 1.Buildin

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of code

2015-03-12 Thread Yash Mehrotra
Hi Akshay, I advise you to first take a look at this and set up your dev environment. http://gnu-mailman.readthedocs.org/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/START.html PS - I am not a mentor, just another applicant. But I am pretty sure that they will also ask you to set up the dev env first as well. On W

[Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of code

2015-03-11 Thread Akshay Nath.R
Hi, my name is AkshayNath R. I am a computer science engineering student from India. I would like to code for GNU mailman this summer. From project ideas i have found two of them interesting 1.Building dashboard page for Admins/Owners/Moderators 2.Building javascript client for GNU mailman. I wo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google summer of code 2013

2013-04-10 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
As has been suggested previously, at this point it is best that you simply start the discussion here on the mailing list. All of the mentors read the list and technical discussions should involve the entire community. On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Pratik Sarkar wrote: > I am interested to work

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code'13 introduction

2013-04-07 Thread Terri Oda
On 13-04-07 1:46 AM, Avik Pal wrote: I have been going through the links given in the mailman developers' page and documentations here and there, maybe you can help me with some useful resources so that right away I can start contributing by fixing small bugs and in this way sharpen my skills be

[Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code'13 introduction

2013-04-07 Thread Avik Pal
Hello, I'm Avik, 3rd yr (junior) bachelor CS student from Bengal Engineering & Science University,Shibpur. I went through the GSOC '13 ideas list and found the project *Anti-spam/anti-abuse in mailman* very interesting. I also would like to say that I also fulfill all the necessary prerequisites

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-04-02 Thread Terri Oda
On 03/29/2012 11:58 PM, Shayan Md wrote: Okay then, can you please tell me how we can put this search code in best use of mailman3? I have a proposal to write, I am getting unsure of things day by day. Can you also tell me who is the mentor of this project? When it comes to writing your proposa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Shayan Md wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull >wrote: > > >> And (2) search and retrieval may > >> do a *lot* of message access, for example if you want to do data > >> mi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Shayan Md wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull > wrote: >> And (2) search and retrieval may >> do a *lot* of message access, for example if you want to do data >> mining (see Ana from Spain's thread). > Isn't it the purpose of index? Y

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Shayan Md wrote: > > > Assuming that we have something like this(object-ID-addressable, If I am > > not wrong, mailman3 made it possible but not yet implemented as it's part > > of archiver), is it over

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 30, 2012, at 02:18 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> I suspect that there will be plenty of mailing lists that get fed messages >> from programs, e.g. think vcs -commit diff lists.  Those programs can also >> be buggy, but again I'd prefer that Mailman not compromise on this issue >> for th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
> An archiver should certainly provide an interface to look up a message by > [...] the hash. Including List-Id in the hash calculation allows the archiver to display a cross posted message in context. See http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#listserver Also, a gentle reminder that I put some c

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Shayan Md wrote: > Assuming that we have something like this(object-ID-addressable, If I am > not wrong, mailman3 made it possible but not yet implemented as it's part > of archiver), is it over ambitious to plan to implement indexer/searcher > for mailman3 and a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Shayan Md
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Terri Oda wrote: > > >> Looks like archiver for mm3 is still in development stage. As far as I > >> understand searcher depends on the srchiver, right? Not completely but > it > >> somewhat depends on a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry writes: > I suspect that there will be plenty of mailing lists that get fed > messages from programs, e.g. think vcs -commit diff lists.  Those programs can > also be buggy, but again I'd prefer that Mailman not compromise on this issue > for their sake. I predict you will eventually l

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > (Aside: Is there some reason why you To: me and CC: the list rather than > having the list address in the To: field? I ask because I'm wondering if it's > a gmail thing, or something about your MUA, and because I suppress the list > copy if I'm

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
(Aside: Is there some reason why you To: me and CC: the list rather than having the list address in the To: field? I ask because I'm wondering if it's a gmail thing, or something about your MUA, and because I suppress the list copy if I'm CC'd directly, I don't get a List-Post: header, so my MUA's

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Mailman 3 itself requires unique Message-IDs. So? FWIW, I don't think I agree with that requirement (even RFC 5322 doesn't make it a "MUST"), but I'm not going to argue with you about Mailman 3 design, that's your pidgin. But there's nothi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >The searcher wouldn't be much use without an archiver. There is a sample >archiver in mailman core -- if enabled, it stores the messages to lists in >maildirs. It does not have a frontend for retrieving or otherwise >displaying the archives.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 28, 2012, at 06:06 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: >Right. UpLib has a 'message-store', which the threading code interacts >with to generate threads as data referring to document IDs. The >message-store API can take both message-IDs or UpLib document IDs and >resolve them. Say Bill, how would yo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >The only tricky issue is that we *do* have to worry about message-ID >collisions of truly different messages and about messages without message >IDs, especially for converted historical archives. So the API needs to be >able to deal with t

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-28 Thread Bill Janssen
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Terri Oda wrote: > > >> Looks like archiver for mm3 is still in development stage. As far as I > >> understand searcher depends on the srchiver, right? Not completely but it > >> somewhat depends on archiver. I am not sure if searche

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Terri Oda wrote: >> Looks like archiver for mm3 is still in development stage. As far as I >> understand searcher depends on the srchiver, right? Not completely but it >> somewhat depends on archiver. I am not sure if searcher can be implemented >> without archive

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 03/27/2012 03:31 AM, Shayan Md wrote: I was working on mm3. But systers' indexer/searcher was implemented for mailman2. So it must be easy for to integrate it with mm2. Actually, the systers indexer was designed to work with mboxes (because I had a pile of data in that format that the stud

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 03:01:41PM +0530, Shayan Md wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Is this integration to be done with mailman2 or mailman3? > > In mailman3, the archivers are separated from the mailman core. > > I was working on mm3. But systers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-27 Thread Shayan Md
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 04:57:44PM +0530, Shayan Md wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am Shayan, I am doing my masters from IISc Bangalore. I want to take > part > > in GSoC from mailman organization. I have fairly good experience in > python. > >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 04:57:44PM +0530, Shayan Md wrote: > Hi, > > I am Shayan, I am doing my masters from IISc Bangalore. I want to take part > in GSoC from mailman organization. I have fairly good experience in python. > I worked on whoosh library for my own project. I have experience with > d

[Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

2012-03-26 Thread Shayan Md
Hi, I am Shayan, I am doing my masters from IISc Bangalore. I want to take part in GSoC from mailman organization. I have fairly good experience in python. I worked on whoosh library for my own project. I have experience with django also. I am planning to work on integrating systers search code i

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code

2011-04-04 Thread Florian Fuchs
Hi Andrew, On 03.04.2011 19:33, Andrew Rodman wrote: Hello, my name is Andrew Rodman and I'm a college student looking to get involved in your Mailman mailing list manager through Google's Summer of Code. Sounds good! This is my first year investigating the program and I'm unsure about the st

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code

2011-04-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 03, 2011, at 01:33 PM, Andrew Rodman wrote: >Hello, my name is Andrew Rodman and I'm a college student looking to get >involved in your Mailman mailing list manager through Google's Summer of >Code. This is my first year investigating the program and I'm unsure about >the steps I need to ta

[Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code

2011-04-04 Thread Andrew Rodman
Hello, my name is Andrew Rodman and I'm a college student looking to get involved in your Mailman mailing list manager through Google's Summer of Code. This is my first year investigating the program and I'm unsure about the steps I need to take to apply for this project. I'm assuming I need to wri

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 3, 2008, at 6:19 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote: > X.1.1 Bad destination mailbox address > X.2.4 Mailing list expansion problem > X.5.3 Too many recipients > X.7.2 Mailing list expansion prohibited > The sender is not authorized to send a messa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>> Unfortunately, tuning list settings that have to do with filtering >>> is >>> not and never really was something that you want people who have >>> never >>> even set up an MTA to do. Und

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-03 Thread Timo Wingender
Barry Warsaw schrieb: > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Timo Wingender wrote: >> >> As the deadline was on March 31th I submitted a application to the >> Python Software foundation. >> A copy of my application can be found here: >> >> http://kybs.de/~wingender/gsoc2008/mailman/application.html >> >>

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-03 Thread Dale Newfield
Ian Eiloart wrote: > Mailman would need to reject mail after RCPT TO if the sender isn't > permitted to post to the list, or if the recipient address doesn't > refer to a list. Or a list owner, etc. -Dale ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Deve

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-03 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 3 April 2008 14:28:55 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: > > > On Mar 29, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > > > For this reason I am looking forward to a way to issue SMTP rejects > > > based on content. Eg, for sendmail and

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Eino Tuominen
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: > > > On Mar 29, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > > > For this reason I am looking forward to a way to issue SMTP rejects > > > based on content. Eg, for sendmail and postfix, this could be > > > implemented via a Mailman-

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > On Mar 29, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > For this reason I am looking forward to a way to issue SMTP rejects > > based on content. Eg, for sendmail and postfix, this could be > > implemented via a Mailman-provided milter. > > What about the Ma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 2, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Eino Tuominen wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Barry Warsaw writes: >> > Mailman to something like SpamAssassin. One of course would be >> a > fairly simple handler to recognize SA headers and do the >> appropri

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 2, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: >> Mailman to something like SpamAssassin. One of course would be a >> fairly simple handler to recognize SA headers and do the appropriate >> thing. > > Why have a Handler

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Timo Wingender wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > As the deadline was on March 31th I submitted a application to the > Python Software foundation. > A copy of my application can be found here: > > h

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 29, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > For this reason I am looking forward to a way to issue SMTP rejects > based on content. Eg, for sendmail and postfix, this could be > implemented via a Mailman-provided milter. What about th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 28, 2008, at 4:51 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > - The big hole in the current architecture is that there is no way > for >spam filters in the MTA to get information from Mailman's member >lists. That seems to be the crucial defe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Eino Tuominen writes: > I agree, it's a UI problem. What I'd like is that privacy/spam > administration page had two checkboxes for "Filter obvious spam" and > "Filter propable spam" (or smthng like that). Do you mean "Filter SpamAssassin score >15" and "Filter SpamAssassin >5", or equivalen

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Eino Tuominen
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: > > Mailman to something like SpamAssassin. One of course would be a > > fairly simple handler to recognize SA headers and do the appropriate > > thing. > > Why have a Handler when you can already use header scanning in the > privacy filter

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > Mailman to something like SpamAssassin. One of course would be a > fairly simple handler to recognize SA headers and do the appropriate > thing. Why have a Handler when you can already use header scanning in the privacy filters? Ie, isn't this a documentation or UI

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Timo Wingender
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the deadline was on March 31th I submitted a application to the Python Software foundation. A copy of my application can be found here: http://kybs.de/~wingender/gsoc2008/mailman/application.html It's not good because I had to less time. But luck

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: > For example, the sites I am aware of run amavisd+SA in front of > mailman. > They aren't going to disable amavis to have mailman run SA directly. > Nor are sites with barrucudas likely to do so, etc e

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-04-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Timo Wingender wrote: > I like to participate in Google Summer of Code this year. One possible > Project for me is to implement some Spam Defense in Mailman. I think > development for Mailman should be possible through Py

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Cristóbal Palmer writes: > Part of this involves the backstory. 500+ lists that have never been > in any way filtered, and many vocal list administrators concerned that > having something imposed on them that they can't control will break > things. "Beggars can't be choosers." > Personall

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
Cristóbal Palmer wrote: > >An important detail that I left out was that I never got mail like >what I linked to before I put SA on the mailing list server. Once I >added that, I started seeing mails like this at a rate of two or three >per day. It appears it's not just SpamAssassin, but MailScann

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
Cristóbal Palmer wrote: > >I'm still scratching my head on how this bounced its way into my >inbox, for example: > > http://garp.metalab.unc.edu/backscatter-example.txt > >How/where do I stop that? It doesn't look to me like backscatter at all. It looks like spam sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-29 Thread Cristóbal Palmer
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:37:36PM -0400, Cristóbal Palmer wrote: > Where was the forgery? How did mailman (or was it > postfix?) get duped? Given an off-list response I got, I should clarify further. An important detail that I left out was that I never got mail like what I linked to before I put

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-29 Thread Cristóbal Palmer
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 01:12:59PM -0500, Robby Griffin wrote: >> How/where do I stop that? > > How is that backscatter? Looks like plain old spam to me (addressed > to a -owner address, which forwarded to postmaster But it shouldn't go to postmaster! /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_owners cc-co s

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-29 Thread Cristóbal Palmer
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 01:08:14PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't see anything in this story that couldn't be done just as well > with central control via SA at the MTA. Part of this involves the backstory. 500+ lists that have never been in any way filtered, and many vocal list adm

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Cristóbal Palmer writes: > Back in January I told our 500+ list admins that they could do this: > > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/ibiblio-announce/2008-January/000210.html > > And as of yesterday (27 of March) fewer than 20 had done > anything. Yesterday I ran a script that impo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Timo Wingender wrote: >Stephen J. Turnbull schrieb: >> >> - Peripherally related, but also very important, is work on the >> backscatter problem. See the ongoing "before next release: disable >> backscatter in default installation" thread on this list. However, >> Jo Rhett has sketched out

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-28 Thread Timo Wingender
Martin Schütte schrieb: > Terri Oda schrieb: > > Even if it's not Mailman's responsibility to do the scanning, it can > > be incredibly helpful to make the mailman interface aware of and able > > to interact with scanning technologies. > > I would suggest to be more specific: which functions do

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-28 Thread Timo Wingender
Stephen J. Turnbull schrieb: > Timo Wingender writes: > > > This are my ideas so far. Is this welcome in Mailman and is it enough > > for an GSoC Project? Where would it be best? 2.1.11? 2.2.0? 3.0.0? > > I don't speak for the core developers, but to summarize what several > others have said and

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-28 Thread Cristóbal Palmer
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 07:37:29PM +0100, Martin Schütte wrote: > > - hold or discard Messages marked as spam: > Set up Spam-Filter rules with "X-Spam-Flag: YES", "X-Spam-Level: > \*\*\*\*\*\*\*", or whatever. It is not the most user friendly > interface, but certainly the most configurable and

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-28 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 27 March 2008 09:29:21 -0700 Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Timo Wingender wrote: >> Discard messages from nonmembers is no option on most lists. > > AFAIK it is an option, but not the default and defaults are rarely > changed in my experience. I think he means it's not an acceptabl

[Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Timo Wingender writes: > This are my ideas so far. Is this welcome in Mailman and is it enough > for an GSoC Project? Where would it be best? 2.1.11? 2.2.0? 3.0.0? I don't speak for the core developers, but to summarize what several others have said and add a couple of points: - If you are go

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 27-Mar-08, at 2:37 PM, Martin Schütte wrote: > P.S.: I hope this mail did not become too negative. I am always in > favour of better and more user friendly spam filters. But there are > quite a lot of spam-related patches already and any new approach > should > be clearly better than the alrea

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Schütte
Terri Oda schrieb: > Even if it's not Mailman's responsibility to do the scanning, it can > be incredibly helpful to make the mailman interface aware of and able > to interact with scanning technologies. I would suggest to be more specific: which functions do we wish to have, what is necessar

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Timo Wingender
Terri Oda schrieb: > On 27-Mar-08, at 12:35 PM, Jason Pruim wrote: > >> One thing that I've been thinking about in regards to this... Is this >> job the responsibility of mailman? To scan for spam and other such >> things? >> >> I do all of my scanning at the front end, all e-mail gets run thr

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Jason Pruim
On Mar 27, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Timo Wingender wrote: > Jason Pruim schrieb: >> >>> >> >> One thing that I've been thinking about in regards to this... Is >> this job the responsibility of mailman? To scan for spam and other >> such things? > Of course this is not the primary job of mailman. But

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Timo Wingender
Jason Pruim schrieb: > > On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: >> Timo Wingender wrote: >>> Discard messages from nonmembers is no option on most lists. >> >> AFAIK it is an option, but not the default and defaults are rarely >> changed in my experience. >> >>> The first action is to integr

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Timo Wingender
Jo Rhett schrieb: > Timo Wingender wrote: >> Discard messages from nonmembers is no option on most lists. > > AFAIK it is an option, but not the default and defaults are rarely > changed in my experience. > >> The first action is to integrate support for SpamAssassin in Mailman. >> Therefor I wro

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Timo Wingender
Mark Sapiro schrieb: > Jo Rhett wrote: > > >> Timo Wingender wrote: >> >>> Discard messages from nonmembers is no option on most lists. >>> >> AFAIK it is an option, but not the default and defaults are rarely >> changed in my experience. >> > > > I think that Timo is saying th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 27-Mar-08, at 12:35 PM, Jason Pruim wrote: > One thing that I've been thinking about in regards to this... Is this > job the responsibility of mailman? To scan for spam and other such > things? > > I do all of my scanning at the front end, all e-mail gets run through > ASSP to scan blacklists, g

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jo Rhett wrote: >Timo Wingender wrote: >> Discard messages from nonmembers is no option on most lists. > >AFAIK it is an option, but not the default and defaults are rarely >changed in my experience. I think that Timo is saying that for his purposes on his lists it is not viable for him to auto

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Jason Pruim
On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: > Timo Wingender wrote: >> Discard messages from nonmembers is no option on most lists. > > AFAIK it is an option, but not the default and defaults are rarely > changed in my experience. > >> The first action is to integrate support for SpamAssassin in

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Jo Rhett
Timo Wingender wrote: > Discard messages from nonmembers is no option on most lists. AFAIK it is an option, but not the default and defaults are rarely changed in my experience. > The first action is to integrate support for SpamAssassin in > Mailman. Therefor I wrote a python class spamc which

[Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code - Spam Defense

2008-03-27 Thread Timo Wingender
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I like to participate in Google Summer of Code this year. One possible Project for me is to implement some Spam Defense in Mailman. I think development for Mailman should be possible through Python Software Foundation. Am I right with this? I admin