Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > I know that our current solution is sub-optimal, but I'm not > convinced that it's the only way to skin this cat. Moreover, I'm > also not convinced that Maildir is the only effective way to make

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: >> Remember, this discussion all started because Postfix virtual host >> delivery is broken on the trunk. The virtual_mailbox_maps feature >> is a new one since we last looked at how to integrate Ma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:29 PM -0400 9/28/06, John A. Martin wrote: > Is in not possible to do Postfix virtual mailbox domains _without_ > maildir style delivery? Probably, but I'm not sure it really buys us much of anything to have separate mailboxes for each list, as opposed to a queue processing mechanism tha

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:40 PM -0400 9/28/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > I would ask them if their license is GPL compatible. IOW, do they > believe we can combine GPL code with theirs? Better yet would be > cases where that's actually been done before. I'll send a note and ask. > Remember, this discussion all sta

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread John A. Martin
>>>>> "baw" == Barry Warsaw >>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail" >>>>> Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:40:51 -0400 baw> I think John was asking about using virtual_mailbox_maps with baw> delivery to mbox,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > Is there any license questions or issues that we would need to have > answered or confirmed by the Sendmail Consortium? Or should we > wait on that until we've heard back from the FSF? I would

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread John A. Martin
>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles >>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail" >>>>> Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:06:29 -0500 Brad> Maildir was not designed as an efficient queue-on-disk Brad> strategy. Is in not

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Dale Newfield
Brad Knowles wrote: > I think we're better off spending our resources working on trying to > resolve the real bottleneck issues that we already know are present > in our system as opposed to working on cool stuff that may or may not > help but would require more overall changes to more parts of

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:09 AM -0400 9/28/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> Does it have to be GPL? Is a Berkeley-type license not okay? > > GPL would be best, but Berkeley is probably okay. We'd probably > want to get confirmation of that from the FSF. The key thing is > that it has to be compatible with the GPL (a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On 28 September 2006 08:21:05 -0500 Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What I find really intriguing about this approach is the ability to >> reject some messages immediately, presumably allowing the MTA to >> bounce them. > > Yup. > >>We could reject the message

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 8:12 AM -0400 9/28/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > Does it have to be GPL? Is a Berkeley-type license not okay? GPL would be best, but Berkeley is probably okay. We'd probably want to get confirma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:12 AM -0400 9/28/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > What I find really intriguing about this approach is the ability to > reject some messages immediately, presumably allowing the MTA to > bounce them. Yup. >We could reject the message then before it entered > Mailman's incoming

[Mailman-Developers] LTMP for incoming mail

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've changed the subject to more accurately reflect this thread. On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:11 AM, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 23:25 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: >> LMTP is probably the best and most native method for both sendmail >>