Re: [Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-25 Thread J C Lawrence
On 25 Apr 2002 13:23:16 -0400 Tanner Lovelace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 10:33, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: >> On 4/25/02 3:11 AM, "Carson Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But by moving the data from the list machine in the border zone >> inside the main firewall, it al

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-25 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 4/25/02 10:23 AM, "Tanner Lovelace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't forget, however, that since the list machine must get > at the data somehow, you now have one more opening through > your main firewall that must be secured/monitored/etc... > So, basically, it's a trade off. I'll take one

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-25 Thread Tanner Lovelace
On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 10:33, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > On 4/25/02 3:11 AM, "Carson Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But by moving the data from the list machine in the border zone inside the > main firewall, it also makes that data less prone to attack from cracked > machines elsewhere in the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-25 Thread J C Lawrence
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:11:10 -0400 Carson Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking as someone who has just a few years of computer security > experience, the above proposal accomplishes just about nothing, > security-wise. If the mail list system in the DMZ can get the > subscriber data from

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-25 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 4/25/02 3:11 AM, "Carson Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking as someone who has just a few years of computer security > experience, the above proposal accomplishes just about nothing, > security-wise. Speaking as someone who also does, who lives with someone who did it for a living

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-25 Thread Carson Gaspar
--On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:29 AM -0700 Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This, FWIW, is turning into a crucial issue for me. We've come ot realize > the subscriber lists are a corporate asset that needs protecting, so a big > To Do item for me now is to get them into a system

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-23 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 4/23/02 11:22 AM, "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mailman does not store the membership list in a text file. Further, > under 2.1 Mailman may not store the membership list at all, but > depending on local configuration may only have the ability to query > (LDAP, SQL, whatever) an

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-23 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:26:11 +0200 h huelsebusch wrote: > Hi ! Is it possible that you insert Traffic-Accounting in Mailman ? > Don't know, but I think it's not so difficult, Mailman has to do > something like "(MailSize) * (actually members of the list)", stored > in a PLAIN-textfile, so it w

[Mailman-Developers] MailMan-Traffic

2002-04-23 Thread Henning Hülsebusch
Hi ! Is it possible that you insert Traffic-Accounting in Mailman ? Don't know, but I think it's not so difficult, Mailman has to do something like "(MailSize) * (actually members of the list)", stored in a PLAIN-textfile, so it will also be possible to parse the total traffic, monthly oder da