Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 5, 2017, at 14:51, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 09/05/2017 02:25 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> >> Can you suggest a good place to document this? > > > We really don't say anything about running Mailman as a service. I guess > we think that people know how to do that. > > The now defunct mail

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/05/2017 02:25 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > Can you suggest a good place to document this? We really don't say anything about running Mailman as a service. I guess we think that people know how to do that. The now defunct mailman-bundler has a sample systemd mailman3.service file but that's

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 5, 2017, at 12:54, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > (Thank you!)*10. All it needed was the addition of > > export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > > to the init.d script. It now works. Thanks for figuring this out, and sorry that I’ve been traveling and sprinting and couldn’t help more. Can you suggest a goo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/05/2017 12:13 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > > I did just a quick search and read about issues related to Click and > init scripts. See below. Thank you Abhilash. I had started looking through the click docs, but hadn't found the relevant stuff yet. ... > The biggest source of frustration is

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-05 Thread Abhilash Raj
Hi Mark, I did just a quick search and read about issues related to Click and init scripts. See below. On Tue, Sep 5, 2017, at 09:19 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I'm beginning to develop some understanding of this. I think it is not > related to the changes for plugins, but rather is related to the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
I'm beginning to develop some understanding of this. I think it is not related to the changes for plugins, but rather is related to the use of click and possibly something to do with run levels. I have put logging in /opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/bin/mailman to report the command that invo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/02/2017 06:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 09/02/2017 12:30 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> It would be interesting to know if the problem is in the init script or >> Mailman. You may have to crank up logging of both to find out. Also, I >> wonder if the same problem occurs if you use systemd?

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/02/2017 12:30 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > It would be interesting to know if the problem is in the init script or > Mailman. You may have to crank up logging of both to find out. Also, I > wonder if the same problem occurs if you use systemd? It appears to be in Mailman. I added some logg

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
It would be interesting to know if the problem is in the init script or Mailman. You may have to crank up logging of both to find out. Also, I wonder if the same problem occurs if you use systemd? Other than that I don’t have any ideas. -Barry > On Sep 2, 2017, at 13:31, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 not restarting after reboot [addendum]

2017-09-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/02/2017 08:50 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > The only thing that has changed is the > /etc/init.d/qcluster script (attached as qcluster.txt). This existed > before, but was changed to use start-stop-daemon and to add a 'stop' > function. > > I also did 'update-rc.d qcluster defaults' to create the