Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman headers (was Re: New RFC on using DKIM with MLMs)

2011-10-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Murray S. Kucherawy writes: > So your perspective is "why bother [distinguishing List-Agent from > User-Agent]", basically? If you put it that way, yes. There sure does need to be a reason to bother. > That's fair, I guess, but at the same time, what's the harm in > making the distinction?

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman headers (was Re: New RFC on using DKIM with MLMs)

2011-10-29 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
> -Original Message- > From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:step...@xemacs.org] > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:50 AM > To: Murray S. Kucherawy > Cc: mailman-developers@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman headers (was Re: New RFC on > using DKIM

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman headers (was Re: New RFC on using DKIM with MLMs)

2011-10-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Murray S. Kucherawy writes: > I think having a message with User-Agent and List-Agent is less > confusing than one with two User-Agents. Who's going to be confused? Not end users.[1] I would think the real application is for an administrator or software to look at them and go, "Uh-oh, it's an

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman headers (was Re: New RFC on using DKIM with MLMs)

2011-10-28 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
developers@python.org > Subject: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman headers (was Re: New RFC on using > DKIM with MLMs) > > I think that's a bad idea. The version string should go in a *-Agent > header, along with the agent's identity. Agreed. > While I disagree with having Mail

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman headers (was Re: New RFC on using DKIM with MLMs)

2011-10-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > >> X-Mailman-Version > > > >I think this should be replaced with X-Mailer, or even User-Agent. That's > >not > >currently an SMTP header, but I think it should be. And it is in quite > >widespread use. > > This is just the version of Mailman that sent the message.

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman headers (was Re: New RFC on using DKIM with MLMs)

2011-10-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
Right, sorry. I was in a hurry when I wrote my follow up, so let me provide more detail about the headers, and my thoughts about the X-iness. In general, Mailman should "play nice" but I also think it's not unreasonable to claim the Mailman-* prefix and just start using it for Mailman-specific he