Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: Barry Warsaw writes: Mailman 3 will include a couple of Python web servers. Sorry, my port 80 is already taken up by something else :-) Web servers can bind to other ports. They can even be proxied :). There will definitely be a web serve

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-10 Thread Jordan Hayes
Barry Warsaw writes: Mailman 3 will include a couple of Python web servers. Sorry, my port 80 is already taken up by something else :-) There will definitely be a web server for the REST interface and the web ui will likely be vended from a Python web server. They're super easy to write!

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bernd 'Siggy' Brentrup writes: > learn from ht://Dig or Xapian (both written in perl and C iirc) > to implement an enhanced pipermail. Xapian is written in C++ (I'm pretty sure about that) and has Python bindings. Python bindings for sure: it's used in Roundup (though like much in Roundup I ca

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:49 PM, Bernd Siggy Brentrup wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 22:02 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Bernd Siggy Brentrup wrote: :) No need for this broad hint. Tim Peters would be proud at the power of the ! I was thinking about this option too a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 9, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: Um, you need Phython in this equation exactly why? The archives are web pages. Who cares what language was used to implement the search? You don't demand a Python web server to deliver your archives, do you? Heh, well Mailman 3 will include

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-09 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
> Nice solution Jordan, but I think about a pythonic way to > fully integrate searchable archives into MM. If you are interested in PyLucene, I would be very happy to share maintenance of the relevant Debian package. -Jeff ___ Mailman-Developers mailing

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-09 Thread Jordan Hayes
Siggy writes: Here's my solution: http://infothecary.org/jordan/mailman.html Nice solution Jordan, but I think about a pythonic way to fully integrate searchable archives into MM. Um, you need Phython in this equation exactly why? The archives are web pages. Who cares what language wa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-09 Thread Bernd 'Siggy' Brentrup
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 13:40 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Siggy Brentrup wrote: > > > >In contrast to his suggestions (sth involving google search) I'm > >aiming at a solution akin to Debian's Xapian powered ML search. > > > > cf http://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search > > > >What do you think and

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-09 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Args, I knew I forgot sth, I should have selected MIME digest :) On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 22:19:30 -0700, Jordan Hayes wrote: > Here's my solution: > > http://infothecary.org/jordan/mailman.html Nice solution Jordan, but I think about a pythonic way to fully integrate searchable archives int

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Oh, fer shure. My point was to remind Barry that there are some things you can't ask of any MUA, 'cause none of them do it (well). Writing the Best MUA In The World is on my list, right after I solve the health care issue. :) But ye

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bernd Siggy Brentrup writes: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 15:43 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > They don't come *better* than mutt, though. At best, "different". > > Oh no, no yamuad (Yet Another MUA Discussion) please. Oh, fer shure. My point was to remind Barry that there are some thi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-08 Thread Bernd Siggy Brentrup
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 15:43 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Bernd Siggy Brentrup writes: > > [Barry Warsaw contributed the comment:] > > > > You can do this for Mailman lists, at least when you are explicitly > > > CC'd with an address that's subscribed to the list. You'll get the > > >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bernd Siggy Brentrup writes: > [Barry Warsaw contributed the comment:] > > You can do this for Mailman lists, at least when you are explicitly > > CC'd with an address that's subscribed to the list. You'll get the > > direct copy and not the list copy though. That's the best Mailman > > can

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-07 Thread Bernd Siggy Brentrup
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 22:02 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Bernd Siggy Brentrup wrote: > > > :) No need for this broad hint. > > Tim Peters would be proud at the power of the ! > > >I was thinking about this option too and as soon as the issues > >with the old account

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Bernd Siggy Brentrup wrote: :) No need for this broad hint. Tim Peters would be proud at the power of the ! I was thinking about this option too and as soon as the issues with the old account Ubuntu automatically created for me when importing my Debian packages a

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-07 Thread Bernd Siggy Brentrup
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 19:27 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Aug 7, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > >The problem with integrating these or some of the other solutions into > >the source is they require installation of software over which we have > >no control. > > Agreed, which has alwa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 7, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The problem with integrating these or some of the other solutions into the source is they require installation of software over which we have no control. Agreed, which has always been my argument for including Pipermail in the Mailman distributi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:11 AM, s...@pobox.com wrote: Siggy> In contrast to his suggestions (sth involving google search) I'm Siggy> aiming at a solution akin to Debian's Xapian powered ML search. I've never been all that pleased with Xapian search results. I'm one of those lazy people

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Siggy Brentrup wrote: > >In contrast to his suggestions (sth involving google search) I'm >aiming at a solution akin to Debian's Xapian powered ML search. > > cf http://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search > >What do you think and is anybody else interested in working on >this? There are patches at <

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-07 Thread skip
Siggy> In contrast to his suggestions (sth involving google search) I'm Siggy> aiming at a solution akin to Debian's Xapian powered ML search. I've never been all that pleased with Xapian search results. I'm one of those lazy people who feels that Google does a better job than I ever cou

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-06 Thread Jordan Hayes
Here's my solution: http://infothecary.org/jordan/mailman.html /jordan ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable A

[Mailman-Developers] Searchable archives for MM

2009-08-06 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Hi list, please let me start by presenting myself. My name is Bernd "Siggy" Brentrup and I'm a longtime *nix user/programmer/admin, from '95 thru '04 I have been a DD, shortly before I vanished from Debian I was part of the 2 and 1/2 men show maintaining Debian's mailman package; during that time