Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> Genshi has been mentioned a few times. My impression was that it
>> insists
>> on producing valid XML output, which is nice, but doesn't necessarily
>> play well with ideas like factorisable head/foot portions.
It doesn't; it has an HTML output mode. Yes, you should have
Barry Warsaw wrote:
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> Related to the different levels of customizability, I'd say that it
> should be easy for folks to change some color schemes and basic look
> with just a passing understanding of CSS.
I agree with this, and think that a vast swath of customization needs
could be met wit
Barry Warsaw wrote:
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> On May 2, 2007, at 10:21 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote:
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>> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 11:47:40AM -0400, Ethan Fremen wrote:
>>> Right now, I think the "low hanging fruit" is to rip out all the HTML
>>> 'style' markup and make all
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On May 2, 2007, at 10:22 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:41:58AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> initially and ran into problems there too. He may have moved to
>> Genshi toward the end of the project. I know there are many other
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On May 2, 2007, at 10:21 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 11:47:40AM -0400, Ethan Fremen wrote:
>> Right now, I think the "low hanging fruit" is to rip out all the HTML
>> 'style' markup and make all the style applied via stylesheets
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:41:58AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> initially and ran into problems there too. He may have moved to
> Genshi toward the end of the project. I know there are many other
> templating systems out there, such as PTL (from Quixote) but I don't
> have much experience w
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 11:47:40AM -0400, Ethan Fremen wrote:
> Right now, I think the "low hanging fruit" is to rip out all the HTML
> 'style' markup and make all the style applied via stylesheets.
Agreed. I'd be happy to embark on that effort while waiting for the
trunk to settle down.
--amk
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On May 1, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Andy Buckley wrote:
> In particular, it would be really nice if
>
> * the bits of the template which define , etc. are
> defined
> in one pair of header and footer files, so they can be turned off
> easily;
> * the
Ethan, welcome back.
Aaron, I like your idea of a multi-pronged approach and am very willing
to focus on specific files or whatever portions that you or Ethan would
like me to.
Terri, I also like the idea of the "skin" approach and other UI systems
that I have developed for did use that appr
Aaron Crosman wrote:
> From my reading of the responses to my question I see two ways that
> people are thinking of proceeding, which I think might complement
> each other well.
I'm reading this thread with interest, as the problems of working with
the current templates are really why I'm on this
Let's see if python.org is ok with me now...
Barry Warsaw wrote:
> If there are folks who want to start working on a new web u/i, either
> to integrate a new templating system, or to prototype better content
> or usability, then in the short term the thing to do would be to
> branch Mailman
Developers and Admins,
It is understandable that some admins request a Mailman that works on
their RHEL3 or older. But please don't let that hold development back at
all. Admins really should appreciate that the developers look forward
and focus on creating a system that is state-of-the-art. Wh
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On May 1, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Aaron Crosman wrote:
>> From my reading of the responses to my question I see two ways that
> people are thinking of proceeding, which I think might complement each
> other well.
>
> First, there's the approach of fixing th
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On May 1, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Ethan Fremen wrote:
> Having struggled mightily to find a way to improve templating while
> not
> moving to python 2.4 (at least), I have to confess I don't think
> there's
> a good way to get there.
That shouldn't be
Barry Warsaw wrote:
> If there are folks who want to start working on a new web u/i, either
> to integrate a new templating system, or to prototype better content
> or usability, then in the short term the thing to do would be to
> branch Mailman 2.1 and let you have at it. In order to get
>From my reading of the responses to my question I see two ways that
people are thinking of proceeding, which I think might complement each
other well.
First, there's the approach of fixing the current pages by moving the
style information out of the Python code and into a CSS file. Second,
there
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:12 -0500, Jon Reese wrote:
> Unfortunately there are a number of package related versions that cannot
> be upgraded easily because the packagers have not brought the RPMs up to
> date with the current stable release of Mailman (2.1.9). They may have
> reasons for this,
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On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Terri Oda wrote:
> Ideally, I think it should be possible to skin mailman just using
> CSS, so I'd say we should start there. And once that's done, maybe
> someone could sit down and try making a few different skins so p
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On Apr 27, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Aaron Crosman wrote:
> That said, I'm not clear where this project stands. I've been
> reviewed
> the summary from last summer's SoC work, and while that's given me
> some
> idea of what was done, I don't have a good
Jon Reese writes:
> My desired hopes would include Mailman 2.1.9 support for Python 2.2.3
> without patches or changes to Python coding (for users of RHEL3 and
> CentOS3);
This is a cart-horse inversion IMO.
Let's get the template system, with whatever Python and email module
Barry feels li
I would also like to lend a hand wherever it is desired as well as offer
some suggestions to help with the improvement of the Mailman user
interface. Having watched the mailing lists since last November for
news about improvements in the user interface and the template system,
it was not reall
On 27-Apr-07, at 4:53 PM, Aaron Crosman wrote:
> That said, I'm not clear where this project stands. I've been
> reviewed
> the summary from last summer's SoC work, and while that's given me
> some
> idea of what was done, I don't have a good sense of how and where
> to get
> started on help
Since Barry suggested that conversation about improving the mailman GUI
should be moved here, I thought I'd take a minute to ask a couple
starter questions.
First, let me say, that I'm willing to do some of the work on this part
of the project. In the organization I work for (and run mailman for)
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