Re: [Mailman-Developers] How do I turn off line wrapping ontemplate files?

2002-03-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CG" == Carson Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CG> I just added a feature to wrap, that lets you specify line CG> breaks. If the last 2 characters on a line are \n, those CG> characters are removed, and that line is not filled. I'm not sure I want to add more rules to wrap(

Re: [Mailman-Developers] buglet, changing options on an already deleted member

2002-03-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MM" == Marc MERLIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MM> I bring up an admin page, MM> from the shell, I remove a user MM> I change the user options in the web form, and click submit MM> The error is correct, but mailman should probably return a MM> simple error in the web

[Mailman-Developers] Re: updated patch: remove member from all the lists

2002-03-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MM" == Marc MERLIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MM> This version of the patch add --fromall which lets you remove MM> a specified Email from all your lists (replaces my _alllists_ MM> special hack) Applied, thanks. -Barry ___ Mailma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread barry
> "JJB" == James J Besemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JJB> I recently started running a relatively small mailing list JJB> using Mailman and am quite happy with it. I am a proficient JJB> Python developer and the fact that Mailman is Python-based JJB> was one reason I chose

[Mailman-Developers] Small patch

2002-03-06 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
There are two same questions, but in one place there is a space at the end, while in the other there is not. I propose to remove the space in the first case. -- Misha Index: admin.py === RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/C

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread James J. Besemer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cool! Since I'm strapped for time right now, I'm just going to > comment briefly. Thanks for the various pointers. Dunno how long before I'll be productive (read Dangerous ;o). > You'd think! I've had a couple of patches contributed that filter out > HTML, but I'v

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread Les Niles
On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 11:01:51 -0800 "James J. Besemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> You'd think! I've had a couple of patches contributed that filter out >> HTML, but I've not been able to whip them into shape for inclusion. >> I've basically given up hope for MM2.1, b

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread James J. Besemer
Les Niles wrote: > (It was the release of AOL 6.0, which doesn't allow > turning off HTML, that prompted me.) Exactly. While, OTOH I agree these more robust formats are the future, it's insane to force them on users and not allow them to turn them off. --jb -- James J. Besemer 503-280-0838

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread John W Baxter
At 11:22 -0800 3/6/2002, Les Niles wrote: >Most of the time you really can just strip out the HTML. AOL, >Outhouse, and most of the other clients that like to generate HTML >put out multipart/alternative messages that include a text/plain >section, so picking out the latter and dropping the other

Re: [Mailman-Developers] list_members doesn't return the whole membership list

2002-03-06 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:22:55PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > > > "MM" == Marc MERLIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > MM> root@gandalf:/var/local/mailman/bin# ./dumpdb > MM> ../lists/test3/config.pck | grep user_options 'user_options': > MM> {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': 266}, >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread James J. Besemer
John W Baxter wrote: > I suspect that sending a few blank messages to a list and being chastised > for it would be sufficient training for some. Yes, for some. ;o) I think my situation is that there is a very vocal minority who hate HTML and there is a similarly sized minority who can't figu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Python-2.2 disaster

2002-03-06 Thread Ron Jarrell
At 11:50 AM 3/5/02 -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: >> "CG" == Carson Gaspar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >CG> *sigh* The problems with running such a low market share >CG> platform like Solaris/SPARC *snort* > >Ah, okay. Well, I tried to get into the Solaris machines on the SF >compil

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 3/6/02 4:14 PM, "James J. Besemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the host, I'd like to solve the problem if I can. Someday... First step is -- "I run this list, this is how I plan on running it, and if you insist on yelling about this stuff on the list, I'll kick YOU off first." There co

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread James J. Besemer
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > First step is -- "I run this list, this is how I plan on running it, and if > you insist on yelling about this stuff on the list, I'll kick YOU off > first." I don't agree, certainly not with this issue. More generally -- the list IS the members -- not the admin or to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Missing footers with latest CVS

2002-03-06 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:22:27AM +0900, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > That would work in the best of all possible worlds (i.e. NOT the real > world :) but I think there is still information lost when converting > some charsets into Unicode, like Big5 and EUC-TW. Also, who knows if > we would corrupt

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread John W Baxter
At 16:14 -0800 3/6/2002, James J. Besemer wrote: >Another faction doesn't object to HTML per se except that the text in such >messages (for them) >appear in too small a font and they can't figure out how to change it. Happens to me a lot since I read mail on my Macs, and a sensible size on a Wind

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
Title: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself... On 3/6/02 6:03 PM, "John W Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My solution is simple for mailing lists:  if a message is hard to read, I > don't read it (unless it seems to answer a question I posed, in which case > I try)

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JJB" == James J Besemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You'd think! I've had a couple of patches contributed that >> filter out HTML, but I've not been able to whip them into shape >> for inclusion. I've basically given up hope for MM2.1, but >> will look at it again for

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Missing footers with latest CVS

2002-03-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Ben" == Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> This would violate RFC 1522: SJT> That's right. People with broken mailers have broken SJT> mailers. Make sure that things are robust for those with SJ

Re: [Mailman-Developers] list_members doesn't return the whole membership list

2002-03-06 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MM" == Marc MERLIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Hmm, do a cvs update and try again. How's it look now? MM> I subscribed to mailman-checkins, it's easier, I just waited MM> to see the commit :-) MM> BTW, here's a small patch on top of that: I also added a catch of a p

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

2002-03-06 Thread James J. Besemer
"Barry A. Warsaw" wrote: > Here's the basic problem: there are lots of different use cases that > fall under the rubric "filtering HTML". Some people want it stripped, > some want it transformed, do we preserve links, etc, etc. It's hard > to support everything everyone wants to do with HTML m

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Missing footers with latest CVS

2002-03-06 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "BAW" == Barry A Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Ben" == Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> This would violate RFC 1522: SJT> That's right. People with broken mailers have broken SJT> mailers.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Missing footers with latest CVS

2002-03-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Thread-relevant, so answered here. > "BAW" == Barry A Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BAW> (Aside to Stephen: do you know if Kyle still handles VM bug BAW> reports these days? ;). That depends. If you suggest providing support for correspondence with non-RFC-compliant MUAs, you

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Missing footers with latest CVS

2002-03-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Ben" == Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Can we safely assume that all charsets folks will use with Ben> Mailman will have us-ascii as a subset? It seems to be the Ben> case so far. Depends on how you define "subset". UTF-16 is what I have in mind. -- Insti

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Missing footers with latest CVS

2002-03-06 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Ben" == Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Can we safely assume that all charsets folks will use with Ben> Mailman will have us-ascii as a subset? It seems to be the Ben> case so far. Stephen>