[MM3-users] Re: default processing

2025-08-13 Thread Sam Darwin via Mailman-users
With computers the word "default" has a specific meaning: if you have not manually set a value, this is the fallback result that occurs when you selected "nothing". "List default" matches that meaning. When user joins a list, they are assigned this option. Nothing has been manually selected b

[MM3-users] Re: default processing

2025-08-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Gerald Vogt writes: > People tend to choose "Accept immediately (bypass other rules)". How about "Accept immediately (no spam check)"? > I do wonder somehow if there is really a use case where you would > actually need "Accept immediately". "Need", probably not. However, for people who in

[MM3-users] Re: default processing

2025-08-13 Thread Gerald Vogt
Hi, just to chime in: the bigger issue I see with our (non english native) list owners is the confusion between "Accept immediately (bypass other rules)" and "Default processing", in particular during moderation of a held message to set the status of a new list member which was hold for moder

[MM3-users] Re: default processing

2025-08-13 Thread Sam Darwin via Mailman-users
> I don't understand why you are confused. I understand now, and I'm not confused. However before, when I was learning about this topic, I encountered a problem, and it's worth trying to make it easier. Even now that I 'understand', the issue continues. It's about terminology and language, and

[MM3-users] Re: default processing

2025-08-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Sam Darwin via Mailman-users writes: > Well, for more background info I am not suggesting this purely > whimsically, That's not what I don't understand. I don't understand why you are confused. Specifically, cascading context-depended defaults of this kind are commonly used in system administ

[MM3-users] Re: default processing

2025-08-12 Thread Sam Darwin via Mailman-users
Well, for more background info I am not suggesting this purely whimsically, I went through a debugging session a month or two ago where I was trying to understand message acceptance. After an hour, I figured out "Oh, stupid, it's not that this user has default processing! No. They are using defa