Re: [Mailman-Users] "No mailman user found" error when buildingMailman 2.1

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Carnes
Quoting from the Archives: == I've had this exact same problem installing mailman on solaris. The problem is in getting python configured properly. Make sure LD_LIBRARY_PATH points to all the right places, including wherever the SSL libraries live, and you may have to hack the Modules/Setup fil

Re: [Mailman-Users] master-qrunner.pid

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Carnes
I've never seen this before, but I have seen in the code that some of the daemons are set to stop themselves if it's taking too long to run a process. I suggest that you look at the virtual server and see if you are getting enough cycles while Mailman is running. The daemon that is most sensitive

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stat's

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Carnes
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:02, Con Wieland wrote: > Hello all > > Before re-inventing the wheel has anyone created any general reporting > scripts. I need something like #of lists #number of subscribers, per > list, #number of posts per list, that kind of stuff. I'm sure they'll > come up with mo

Re: [Mailman-Users] confirmation-mail can't be send

2003-02-05 Thread Matthew Davis
* Daniel Schönland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I am new to the list, so if I'm asking something stupid, slap me in my > back. =) /me thinks about it... > Today I installed mailman on my Debian (Sendmail 8.12.) using apt-get. > Everything went well. Then I created a list and configured the alia

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change 'from' address for admin messages

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Carnes
What version of Mailman are you using and what is your MTA. Version 2.1.x has much better virtual host control. Also, Postfix has much better virtual host control than sendmail. On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 10:47, Harwood, AS (Andrew) wrote: > I am having difficulty working out how I can change the 'fr

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Richard Barrett
At 23:18 05/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote: > Tom > > I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by > VERP'ed address. Evidently, you are correct. :-/ So, that's not my problem, then, but my problem remains unresolved. In a nutshell, here's what I'm observing: Prior to my "upgrade" (o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest message header filtering

2003-02-05 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi, Kenneth Bruyninckx wrote: Hello, I followed your advice and added the line to mm_cfg.py in mailman/Mailman I must say that I received an error when adding this line, but after I removed the underscore from (_('English... it was accepted. Ah, _() should have been escaped. Try this. def _(s)

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Carnes
Dude! Awesome explaination - should definitely go into the FAQ... On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 18:00, Richard Barrett wrote: > Tom > > I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by VERP'ed address. > > In MM 2.0.x outgoing mail from lists came from the > [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias. > > Wi

[Mailman-Users] Assistance with umbrella lists

2003-02-05 Thread Andrew Kemp
Greetings, Our organisation is migrating to Mailman from various aliases and majordomo lists. In an effort to ease management, I would like to set up lists for each office and an overall list (umbrella list) to include all the office lists. This will allow HR to easily mail the entire company.

[Mailman-Users] confirmation-mail can't be send

2003-02-05 Thread Daniel Schönland
Hello, I am new to the list, so if I'm asking something stupid, slap me in my back. =) Today I installed mailman on my Debian (Sendmail 8.12.) using apt-get. Everything went well. Then I created a list and configured the aliases file like said by mailman. Again, everything great until I start

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Maddox
> Tom > > I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by > VERP'ed address. Evidently, you are correct. :-/ So, that's not my problem, then, but my problem remains unresolved. In a nutshell, here's what I'm observing: Prior to my "upgrade" (oh, bitter irony!) to Mailman 2.1, mail s

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Richard Barrett
Tom I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by VERP'ed address. In MM 2.0.x outgoing mail from lists came from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias. With MM 2.1 outgoing mail from lists normally comes from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias. This isn't VERP'ed mail. It is just a change in or

[Mailman-Users] feature request (email confirmation)

2003-02-05 Thread Will Yardley
It seems like it would be nice to setup a method of confirmation for *approving* messages that uses a unique token instead of the list password; while (hopefully) in most cases, the moderator will be sending approval messages over SSL or from the same machine the list is on, it seems like a bad ide

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't admin pending messages -- me too

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Carnes
Well we've entered the philosophical realm here... I agree 100% with you. The Unix way is to give the power to the user and "let them shoot their foot off" if that's what they want (or at least what they tell the system they want to do). Barry moved the URL section out of the config_list dump/

[Mailman-Users] Mailman stat's

2003-02-05 Thread Con Wieland
Hello all Before re-inventing the wheel has anyone created any general reporting scripts. I need something like #of lists #number of subscribers, per list, #number of posts per list, that kind of stuff. I'm sure they'll come up with more once I get this far. Thanks in advance Con Wieland UC Ir

[Mailman-Users] remove_members without notification?

2003-02-05 Thread Warren Woodward
My archive searches have been a bit unclear on this. Using Mailman version 2.0.11, can I delete all members of a list without having notification sent to them? One of our hosted lists has ~5500 members, and the list admin needs to upload a whole new, audited list of addresses. Seeing as most

RE: [Mailman-Users] Disabling VERP

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Maddox
> It looks like the code that initiates VERP'ed return addresses is in > $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/ToOutgoing.py and is enacted in > $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py. > > I cannot see anything in those modules that would lead to > VERP'ing without > one of the appropriate variable being true

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setup Issues

2003-02-05 Thread drmichaelmason
The whole thing is done through the web interface. - Original Message - From: "Simon White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "drmichaelmason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:12 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Setup Issues > 04-Feb-03 at 17:38, drmi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Urgent help required

2003-02-05 Thread Simon White
05-Feb-03 at 17:13, Martin Timm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Feb 5 15:33:51 cailte Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. > Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group > "postfix", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as > group "mailman". Try tweaking

[Mailman-Users] problem after upgrading to 2.1

2003-02-05 Thread Scott R. Every
After upgrading, I am now getting the following error using list_members: Traceback (most recent call last): File "./list_members", line 232, in ? main() File "./list_members", line 207, in main s = formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace') UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread lhansfor
> Actually he did it this way: > > Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable. > > Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch. I do not have Telnet loaded on any of my systems, and I use tcp_wrappers to tightly control which remote sites can access any sites via ftp or secure_sh

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Simone Piunno > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:25 AM > > actually, telnet does NOT show you the RAW connection data (it does > terminal emulation, intercepting control sequences). For real raw > data you should use netcat: > Excellent point Simone. I s

[Mailman-Users] removing a strange email address

2003-02-05 Thread alex wetmore
One of my users subscribed with the address mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] when I was running 2.0.13. Now I'm running 2.1 and he wants to unsubscribe. 2.1 won't allow him to change his settings, and when I use remove_members it reports that [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't a subscriber. How can I remove this u

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Simone Piunno
mercoledì, 05 febbraio 2003 alle 09:51:02, Jim Popovitch ha scritto: > People, you can use telnet to connect to any port and view the raw > connection data on that port. See this URL for how to send email via actually, telnet does NOT show you the RAW connection data (it does terminal emulation

Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Urgent help required

2003-02-05 Thread Martin Timm
Hello Simon, Wednesday, February 5, 2003, 4:33:37 PM, you wrote: SW> Try to find some ways to trace things. Any mail sending attemps will be SW> in Postfix logs. Mailman will log things too. Feb 5 15:33:51 cailte postfix/smtpd[4951]: connect from sleet.ispgateway.de[62.67.200.125] Feb 5 15:33

[Mailman-Users] Attention Mailman Hosting Sites

2003-02-05 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
A long while ago, I offered to put up a page listing sites that offered commercial Mailman list hosting services. Sadly, I don't have the time to maintain this or even put it together. However, there is a MoinMoin page (think: Wiki) listing general Python hosting services, of which Mailman is in

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Adam > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:49 AM > > The fact that telnet is open pretty much says everything about > this sysadmin's approach to security. The fact that you confused "telnet 80" with "telnet " says volumes about your sysadmin skills. :) Peo

[Mailman-Users] How to change 'from' address for admin messages

2003-02-05 Thread Harwood, AS (Andrew)
I am having difficulty working out how I can change the 'from' address that mailman admin messages come from. I have set up mailman on our machine tornado.badc.rl.ac.uk. I would prefer that mail appears to come from 'ncas.nerc.ac.uk', which is a valid alias for this machine. How do I do this? I hav

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Richard Barrett
At 11:44 05/02/2003, dino wrote: Actually he did it this way: Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable. What additions did you make to your server's httpd.conf to support running mailman Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch. In effect like every other request to y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Per Virtual domain customizations

2003-02-05 Thread Simon White
05-Feb-03 at 16:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > I've been reading Simon's post regarding the possible mailman users > > mysql synchronisation. > > In a website we develop (www.urbanshadows.com), we propose to our > users to subscribe to a mailman mailling list; We also propose

Re: [Mailman-Users] Urgent help required

2003-02-05 Thread Simon White
05-Feb-03 at 16:26, Martin Timm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > I have installed Postfix 19993112 02 and Mailman 2.1 That's a very old Postfix with a new Mailman. > Mailman is neither sending any messages outbound nor forwarding mails > to members. There is also no damon-message coming back. I cann

[Mailman-Users] Urgent help required

2003-02-05 Thread Martin Timm
Hello, I have installed Postfix 19993112 02 and Mailman 2.1 Mailman is neither sending any messages outbound nor forwarding mails to members. There is also no damon-message coming back. I cannot trace the mails as it looks like they are not in any spooling files. It's like the are ending up nowhe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Per Virtual domain customizations

2003-02-05 Thread df
Hello I've been reading Simon's post regarding the possible mailman users > mysql synchronisation. In a website we develop (www.urbanshadows.com), we propose to our users to subscribe to a mailman mailling list; We also propose the users to choose beetween a different list of topics. Those user

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: dino > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:44 AM > > Actually he did it this way: > > Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable. > > Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch. Your web browser "telnets" to port 80 all day long. :) -Ji

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "A" == Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: A> The fact that telnet is open pretty much says everything about A> this sysadmin's approach to security. Actually, using the telnet /client/ to connect to port 80 is a pretty natural thing to do. It should connect to the web server runni

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread dino
Well I rent a virtual server and now use SSH. But have been told that I can't turn telnet off...sounds like rubbish to me but hey. But I do have 99.9% shell access, so there should be a way, I am looking into it now. Dino -Original Message- From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "d" == dino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: d> I was just wondering what kind of security mailman offers, as d> far as protecting user passwords goes? User passwords are considered a lower value asset, so while it should not be possible for unauthorized users or list admins to get the

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "d" == dino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: d> Actually he did it this way: d> Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable. d> Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch. d> Sorting that now More details, please. E.g. exactly what url did he get? -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread Adam
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:47:48 + Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:44:10 - > "dino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually he did it this way: > > > > Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable. > > > > Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch.

RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread dino
Actually he did it this way: Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable. Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch. Sorting that now Dino -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Buttery Sent: 05 February 2003 11:27 To:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread John Buttery
* dino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-05 10:32:16 -]: > I was just wondering what kind of security mailman offers, as far as > protecting user passwords goes? Pretty much none. It emails them cleartext once a month, for starters. The list signup page explicitly instructs subscribers not to u

Re: [Mailman-Users] htaccess-Restriction does not work

2003-02-05 Thread Simon White
05-Feb-03 at 11:28, Chris [ www.LiFEFORCE.de ] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > third time i am trying to get an answer: is there no url or whatever, where > i can read, how to get this htaccess-restriction to work? Apache documentation will be most helpful here, it's only indirectly anything to do w

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.

2003-02-05 Thread dino
Hi All, I was just wondering what kind of security mailman offers, as far as protecting user passwords goes? A techy friend of mine has just kindly emailed me a list of all users and their passwords! Looking at my server logs it would appear that he snuck in somehow via anonymous ftp. Would clo

[Mailman-Users] htaccess-Restriction does not work

2003-02-05 Thread Chris [ www.LiFEFORCE.de ]
third time i am trying to get an answer: is there no url or whatever, where i can read, how to get this htaccess-restriction to work? please help me! > hi ! > > i want to have a .htaccess file for the archive and for the page to > subscribe... i don't want to disallow an ip... (no directory-direc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting Tracebacks quite a bit

2003-02-05 Thread Simon White
05-Feb-03 at 00:44, Matthew Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > It looks like your using mailman 2.0.something (with the presence of > qrunner). Have you tried reloading your config.db? Mailman 2.1 > # dumpdb listsdir/listdir/config.db >> temp.config > # config_list -i temp.config listname > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setup Issues

2003-02-05 Thread Simon White
04-Feb-03 at 17:38, drmichaelmason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Don't know what to include, this is not my forte. > > mailman version: 2.0.13 > > I don't have any logs, as I stated, the information just seems to disappear. > As for other evidence, I will be glad to get what I can if you tell me