Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin unsubscribe members by e-mail

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allen Watson wrote: >Applescript can use "do shell script" to access shell commands. I don't seem >to have wget on my OS 10.3.5 system; can "curl" do the job? > >I tried running it; it returned the HTML for the page, looking like it is >halfway there. I tried entering the URL you gave (with approp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2004-11-05 Thread Asbjørn Ulsberg
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:53:07 -0800, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The text in the "info" box is not HTML despite the confusing documentation. It is text only. Any included "<", ">" or "&" characters are escaped. The above statement is more or less correct for 2.1.4, but not for 2.1.5 Okay.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin unsubscribe members by e-mail

2004-11-05 Thread Allen Watson
Applescript can use "do shell script" to access shell commands. I don't seem to have wget on my OS 10.3.5 system; can "curl" do the job? I tried running it; it returned the HTML for the page, looking like it is halfway there. I tried entering the URL you gave (with appropriate values substituted),

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
of course, we're also desperate for people to document... that's another common request -- better docs. On Nov 5, 2004, at 3:32 PM, John W. Baxter wrote: Some people who shouldn't code should document, instead. Lots of projects could use that (including commercial ones). Or coordinate. -

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:32 PM -0800 2004-11-05, John W. Baxter wrote: Of course, Mailman is in Python...that's a different situation. But will a single-binary Mailman still be in Python? If you want a single-binary version, go to your OS vendor and see if they have a pre-built package which you can install. I s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin unsubscribe members by e-mail

2004-11-05 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi, would like to be able to unsubscribe them by e-mail using an admin password, such as: unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] pwd=AdminPwd Reason: I want to partially automate the unsub process using AppleScript. I wonder if AppleScript can automate web access. If you can use wget, then you can unsu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Asbjørn Ulsberg wrote: >On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:02:11 -0700, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The text in the "info" box is not HTML despite the confusing >> documentation. It is text only. Any included "<", ">" or "&" >> characters are escaped. The above statement is more or less corre

Re: [Mailman-Users] All recipients refused: address family not supported

2004-11-05 Thread John W. Baxter
On 11/5/2004 9:15, "Luke Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have been getting an interesting error on one of the lists on my server. > The rest of the lists appear to work fine. This same error appears the last > few times someone has tried to send to this list. The list owner reports

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread John W. Baxter
On 11/5/2004 14:02, "Chuq Von Rospach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know when folks who are involved with open source projects say "hey! > start coding!" it pisses people off. I sympathize but I sympathize from > both sides, and the bottom line is that's the reality. It's not that > developers a

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Nov 5, 2004, at 12:09 PM, Stewart Dean wrote: John, everything you say is valid, and your response is helpful. It is not my intent to just 'bitch from the cheap seat'...the old, 'The food's no good and there's not enough of it'. What I was attempting to express was/is my frustration at a bea

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Mailman e-mail delivery

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter wrote: > >Thanks for the pointer. I worked through it all, which I didn't solve >the issue and everything seemed normal. There is one thing different: >there is no user mailman. But that may be due to a difference between >RedHat and Debian. Renewed testing learned me th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin unsubscribe members by e-mail

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allen Watson wrote: >On 11/4/04 8:25 AM, "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Allen Watson wrote: >> >>> The documentation describes the unsubscribe command like this: >>> >>>unsubscribe [password] [address=] >>> >>> Can I use that with the admin password and "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Mailman e-mail delivery

2004-11-05 Thread Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter
Hi Mark, Thanks for the pointer. I worked through it all, which I didn't solve the issue and everything seemed normal. There is one thing different: there is no user mailman. But that may be due to a difference between RedHat and Debian. Renewed testing learned me that there is really no logging d

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:09 PM -0500 2004-11-05, Stewart Dean wrote: What I was attempting to express was/is my frustration at a beautiful application with many good feature, responsive development, etc., etc that is missing the boat with the fundamental issue of maintenance and updating. It is like the guy w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Mailman e-mail delivery

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winterwrote: > >I have a new server with mailman installed on it. When testing the >MailMan-functionality I have the strangest thing. When I sent a mail to >the test list, it is delivered to the wrapper (according to the log). >But after that the e-mail seems to be archived in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin unsubscribe members by e-mail

2004-11-05 Thread Allen Watson
On 11/4/04 8:25 AM, "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allen Watson wrote: > >> The documentation describes the unsubscribe command like this: >> >>unsubscribe [password] [address=] >> >> Can I use that with the admin password and "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? > > If the list's unsubscribe_

Re: [Mailman-Users] Much ado about relay

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Zain Memon wrote: >I've tried sticking it into both /etc/aliases and >/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.My postfix $alias_maps variable >includes both these locations. Yeah, I've ran both newaliases and >genaliases. I've ran a postalias on both as well. Followed the >INSTALL, README, and README.POST

Re: [Mailman-Users] All recipients refused: address family not supported

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Luke Miller wrote: > >I have been getting an interesting error on one of the lists on my server. The rest >of the lists appear to work fine. This same error appears the last few times someone >has tried to send to this list. The list owner reports that no one is getting any >messages from the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Traceback in update.py

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael G. Jung wrote: > >I've searched around the archive but have not found reference to this. >I attempted to upgrade from version 2.1.4 to version 2.1.5. When the >update proceedure runs I get this traceback. I'll be happy to supply >any additional information. > >OS: FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-P3

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread Stewart Dean
John, everything you say is valid, and your response is helpful. It is not my intent to just 'bitch from the cheap seat'...the old, 'The food's no good and there's not enough of it'. What I was attempting to express was/is my frustration at a beautiful application with many good feature, respons

Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I "set delivery off" via email?

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
PeteBell wrote: >In just the same way as you can subscribe and unsubscribe from a >mailman list by sending (for example) an email to: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the subject line: >unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED], I was under the >impression that you can suspend delivery of list emails by sendi

[Mailman-Users] How do I "set delivery off" via email?

2004-11-05 Thread PeteBell
In just the same way as you can subscribe and unsubscribe from a mailman list by sending (for example) an email to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the subject line: unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED], I was under the impression that you can suspend delivery of list emails by sending an email to the sa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many recipients to the message

2004-11-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:00 PM -0800 2004-11-04, Mark Sapiro wrote: Is there a reason why I have been getting this same message several times a day for several days now? Yes, the OP has some kind of server problem that keeps retrying the delivery of the post every hour and 20 minutes or so even though the post is a

[Mailman-Users] Problem with Mailman e-mail delivery

2004-11-05 Thread Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter
Hi, I have a new server with mailman installed on it. When testing the MailMan-functionality I have the strangest thing. When I sent a mail to the test list, it is delivered to the wrapper (according to the log). But after that the e-mail seems to be archived in /dev/null, since there is no trace.

[Mailman-Users] Traceback in update.py

2004-11-05 Thread Michael G. Jung
Hello: I've searched around the archive but have not found reference to this. I attempted to upgrade from version 2.1.4 to version 2.1.5. When the update proceedure runs I get this traceback. I'll be happy to supply any additional information. OS: FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-P3 Python: 2.3.3 Any advi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Much ado about relay

2004-11-05 Thread Zain Memon
I've tried sticking it into both /etc/aliases and /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.My postfix $alias_maps variable includes both these locations. Yeah, I've ran both newaliases and genaliases. I've ran a postalias on both as well. Followed the INSTALL, README, and README.POSTFIX down to the dot. Fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread John Dennis
On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 12:36, Stewart Dean wrote: > [ snip free software is hard to use rant ] It seems to me you have several options are your disposal: 1) Pay a nominal fee for your software. In the Linux domain Red Hat and other distribution vendors work hard to provide the type of end user exp

[Mailman-Users] All recipients refused: address family not supported

2004-11-05 Thread Luke Miller
I have been getting an interesting error on one of the lists on my server. The rest of the lists appear to work fine. This same error appears the last few times someone has tried to send to this list. The list owner reports that no one is getting any messages from the list. Here are the l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ginu George wrote: >I am facing some problems. >We have 4mailing list in the mail man server. i am the admin for the >four, but we have more than 20 co-admins and moderators. > >When i put moderator password for the moderators all other, even the >members can access the admin pages. how can i solv

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
And you get what you pay for, I guess. If you're in that situation, why do you assume that because the software doesn't have a price tag you no longer need a compentent tech person managing it? you did a great explanation of why geeks still get paychecks, not why these packages are bad. On Nov

Re: [Mailman-Users] Much ado about relay

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Zain Memon wrote: >I'm running Postfix as my MTA with Mailman, and I'm having a bit of >trouble. I've created a list, added subscribers, and stuck the info >into /etc/aliases. Why not /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases which mailman will update automatically with the right settings in mm_cfg.py >Ho

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Oink!!} Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-11-05 Thread Stewart Dean
Thanks, Paul, have a beer on me...it's nice to know that I'm not just some street corner crank, but that the situation really IS stupid, SO unfortunate. Features are nice, front ends are nice, blart and bonkus death rays are soo hotbutbutbutbut, you development elvenfolk

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman usage - accepting all nonmember mail

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Marendra Nutriaji wrote: >i'm using mailman for a while, and it's good i reckon. >what i want to ask is: how can i permanently accept >all non member user to send email to my list? Go to Privacy options...->Sender filters and set generic_nonmember_action to Accept. >as long as i know, i only can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Inital mailman list

2004-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tony Molloy wrote: > >I installed and configured Mailman. Then according to the install guide >I created the initial mailman list using: > >./bin/newlist mailman > >Then I started the daemon and checked it was running. > >I'm trying to subscribe myself to the inital mailman list, as it says in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2004-11-05 Thread Asbjørn Ulsberg
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:02:11 -0700, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The text in the "info" box is not HTML despite the confusing documentation. It is text only. Any included "<", ">" or "&" characters are escaped. Although I have not edited this page myself, I understand it so as the text

Re: [Mailman-Users] Inital mailman list

2004-11-05 Thread Jon Krause
From: "Tony Molloy" : : I installed and configured Mailman. Then according to the install guide : I created the initial mailman list using: : : ./bin/newlist mailman : : Then I started the daemon and checked it was running. : : I'm trying to subscribe myself to the inital mailman list, as it s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Who is moderated?

2004-11-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:52 PM +0100 2004-11-04, Kim Nevelsteen wrote: I have searched through your help files and such and I don't see a single reference to my question, so I state it via mail. The entry at has been created to address this is

[Mailman-Users] Inital mailman list

2004-11-05 Thread Tony Molloy
I installed and configured Mailman. Then according to the install guide I created the initial mailman list using: ./bin/newlist mailman Then I started the daemon and checked it was running. I'm trying to subscribe myself to the inital mailman list, as it says in the install guide, but whe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Who is moderated?

2004-11-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:52 PM +0100 2004-11-04, Kim Nevelsteen wrote: Hello Mainman developers, Actually, this is the mailman-users mailing list. There is a separate mailman-developers mailing list. How does Mailman confirm that a message sent out under a particular address is *actually* the real address.

Re: [Mailman-Users] listowner.org server

2004-11-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:36 AM +0100 2004-11-04, Jo'Asia wrote: I have a few questions after upgrading mailman - they would be right on the Listowner mailing list. Unfortunately this is the one and only official mailman-related list that simply does not work (looks like the lisowner.org server is down). The FAQ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Listowners list available?

2004-11-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:21 AM -0800 2004-11-04, HPA wrote: "Listowners" and "archive" links are not working... http://listowner.org/ http://listowner.org/pipermail/lo/ The FAQ entry has been created to address this issue. -- Brad Knowles, <

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Question

2004-11-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:36 PM -0700 2004-11-03, Shawn Meehan wrote: Does your mailman software have a feature where you can tell the amount of people that are opening your emails? No. To do so would require that everyone run the same MUA, and that the MUA provide this level of detail, and that the headers you p

[Mailman-Users] Much ado about relay

2004-11-05 Thread Zain Memon
I'm running Postfix as my MTA with Mailman, and I'm having a bit of trouble. I've created a list, added subscribers, and stuck the info into /etc/aliases. However, when I email the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address, it bounces back as "Unknown User." Here's what shows up in /var/log/maillog: Nov 5 00:24:

[Mailman-Users] Moderator

2004-11-05 Thread Ginu George
I am facing some problems. We have 4mailing list in the mail man server. i am the admin for the four, but we have more than 20 co-admins and moderators. When i put moderator password for the moderators all other, even the members can access the admin pages. how can i solve this. -- Regards Ginu