[Mailman-Users] Number of message limits by web hosting services

2007-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John W Gintell writes: > Many of the web hosting services that offer mailman place a limit on > the number of messages/hour that a given domain can deliver. This is > presumably done to avoid saturating their servers. If you exceed the > limit, they just ignore some of the recipients.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Placing a copyright notice in list messages.

2007-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Dragon writes: > Mark Sapiro sent the message below at 12:20 4/27/2007: > >Brandon Sussman wrote: > > > Can a copyright notice containing the sender's name be > > > automatically placed in regular mailman list messages? > >However, is this even a good idea at all. > I've got to agree with

Re: [Mailman-Users] Placing a copyright notice in list messages.

2007-04-27 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Apr 27, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Brandon Sussman wrote: Can a copyright notice containing the sender's name be automatically placed in regular mailman list messages? As others have pointed out, it would probably be a mistake to do that unless you can be absolutely certain that all of those who

Re: [Mailman-Users] maiman, problem with greek characters

2007-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Yes! base64 is a standard MIME encoding which the recipient's MUAs > should recognize. Why do the recipients have difficulty reading a > base64 encoded message? Because they use non-conforming MUAs localized to the environment. These MUAs are typically popular with users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/27/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Needless to say, this creates a very bad situation when we try to help > cPanel users, since unless the issue is something we specifically > recognize, we don't know whether it is a general Mailman issue or a > cPanel issue, and if it's the latter we can't get

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 > >which my ISP said was "current". I don't know the significance of >the ".cp2", but 2.1.9 is the latest stable release according to >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103 As Brad points out this is a cPanel releas

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry, I should have been specific: > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 That's cPanel. See FAQ 6.11. We have no way of verifying what they may have done to the stock Mailman code once they took it and modified it to their purposes. At best, we can try

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread bjames
--> BTW, what do you consider the 'current release' of Mailman? Sorry, I should have been specific: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 which my ISP said was "current". I don't know the significance of the ".cp2", but 2.1.9 is the latest stable release according to http://sourceforge.net/project/s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Number of message limits by web hosting services

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
John W Gintell wrote: >Many of the web hosting services that offer mailman place a limit on >the number of messages/hour that a given domain can deliver. This is >presumably done to avoid saturating their servers. If you exceed the >limit, they just ignore some of the recipients. Two hosts

Re: [Mailman-Users] Number of message limits by web hosting services

2007-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/27/07, John W Gintell wrote: > Is there any feature (I found nothing in the documentation) in > Mailman that would help out here, or are there people on this email > list who have found encountered and solved this problem? So far as I know, we do not currently have a solution for you. S

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't believe it applies in our case. >There are several hundred subscribers on each list, with over 200 >different mail domains (hence many different servers). > >A message from a newly added subscriber is accepted, logged in the >archiv

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread bjames
--> On Thursday 26 April 2007 22:49:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --> > Did you ever find a solution to this issue? --> > --> > I realize that this is a really old posting: --> > --> > I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; --> > --> >Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rolf E. Sonneveld wrote: > >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> One minor point here. The post log entry is not written until the >> message is delivered by SMTPDirect. >> > >OK, thus only after the message has been delivered to at least one >subscriber (or the first MTA in the chain of delivery to at lea

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
Hello, Mark, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> Fairly early in message processing, Mailman logs to either logs/post >> (showing that the post was accepted) or to logs/vette (indicating that >> the post was held or rejected, and why). >> > > > One minor point here. The po

[Mailman-Users] Number of message limits by web hosting services

2007-04-27 Thread John W Gintell
Many of the web hosting services that offer mailman place a limit on the number of messages/hour that a given domain can deliver. This is presumably done to avoid saturating their servers. If you exceed the limit, they just ignore some of the recipients. Two hosts that we use have 300 and

Re: [Mailman-Users] SMS/text messaging

2007-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/27/07, Anne Ramey wrote: > I have some users interested in setting up lists to send out text > messages to phones/PDAs. We have figured out that the confirmation > messages for subscription do not work on these devices. We figured out > that the approve method of subscription works, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Placing a copyright notice in list messages.

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: > >If you reall want a notice with the poster explicitly named in the >notice, I suggest a custom handler (see <>) that would add the notice >to the message body ... Ooops. That should be If you really want a notice with the poster explicitly named in the notice, I suggest a c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Placing a copyright notice in list messages.

2007-04-27 Thread Dragon
Mark Sapiro sent the message below at 12:20 4/27/2007: >Brandon Sussman wrote: > > > >Can a copyright notice containing the sender's name be > automatically placed in > >regular mailman list messages? >However, is this even a good idea at all. What if I post something >which includes significan

[Mailman-Users] SMS/text messaging

2007-04-27 Thread Anne Ramey
I have some users interested in setting up lists to send out text messages to phones/PDAs. We have figured out that the confirmation messages for subscription do not work on these devices. We figured out that the approve method of subscription works, but the email it sends to let the user kno

Re: [Mailman-Users] Placing a copyright notice in list messages.

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brandon Sussman wrote: > >Can a copyright notice containing the sender's name be automatically placed in >regular mailman list messages? Not really. You could put the notice in msg_header or msg_footer, but even if the list is personalized, the sender is not one of the available substitutions for

Re: [Mailman-Users] maiman, problem with greek characters

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: >On 4/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I have installed the latest version of mailman in a mail server running >> postfix. The problem is with emails that contain greek characters. If the >> encoding is iso-8859-7 or windows-1253, all the body text is encoded as >> base

[Mailman-Users] Placing a copyright notice in list messages.

2007-04-27 Thread Brandon Sussman
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question about spam filtering

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Mark Sapiro writes: > > > In header_filter_rules, put the following regexp. > > > > ^from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Isn't that going to lose on (1) Bogus Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes. I totally overlooked <>. It needs to be ^from:.*[\s<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] >and >on (2)

Re: [Mailman-Users] maiman, problem with greek characters

2007-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have installed the latest version of mailman in a mail server running > postfix. The problem is with emails that contain greek characters. If the > encoding is iso-8859-7 or windows-1253, all the body text is encoded as > base64. The result of it is tha

Re: [Mailman-Users] certificates for subscribers..application to provide and check???

2007-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/27/07, David Southwell wrote: > For some lists, where we have a means of being able to be sure of user > identity and a security need, I want to reject uncertified mails. In other > cases I simply want to add a warning in the first line of the Body when the > mail is uncertified. Everyt

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple list in the To: field

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tamakh wrote: >I have 12 school list that at times I need to post the same message to ALL >the list but the server rejects it thinking its spam. Rejects or Holds? >Is there an option >that I can turn off or is there a way to send to 12 mailman list all at >once? Set Privacy options->Recipien

Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration problems

2007-04-27 Thread Ivan Van Laningham
Hi All-- On 4/27/07, Aaron Crosman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apache's error log: > [Fri Apr 27 11:42:14 2007] [error] [client 172.17.201.205] Symbolic link > not allowed or link target not accessible: > /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/itd_test, referer: > http://server.org/mailman/listinfo/i

[Mailman-Users] maiman, problem with greek characters

2007-04-27 Thread test
X-Faculty of Social Sciences-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Faculty of Social Sciences-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Faculty of Social Sciences-MailScanner-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Status: No Hi, I have installed the latest version of mailman in a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question about spam filtering

2007-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > In header_filter_rules, put the following regexp. > > ^from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't that going to lose on (1) Bogus Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and on (2) ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-User

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >When the post is delivered, > >there will be an entry in logs/smtp for each batch of deliveries > >(usually one per remote host, or one per user if personalization or > >VERP is being used). > > Actually, if nothing goes wrong, there will

[Mailman-Users] multiple list in the To: field

2007-04-27 Thread Tamakh
I have 12 school list that at times I need to post the same message to ALL the list but the server rejects it thinking its spam. Is there an option that I can turn off or is there a way to send to 12 mailman list all at once? Thank you! -Tam --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question about spam filtering

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason LaMar > >In the spam filtering interface, what would be the easiest regex combination >to ensure that, as an example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] would automatically >discard any "self-addressed" messages in this manner? In header_filter_rules, put the following regexp. ^from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This

Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration problems

2007-04-27 Thread Aaron Crosman
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:31 PM > To: Aaron Crosman; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration problems > > > > - Original Message --- > > Subject: [Mailman-Users]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration problems

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Aaron Crosman wrote: > >The archives problem persists. You gave me the right place to look here >as well. The archives are all owned by list (group list), but the >private archives have restricted access that blocks other users from >getting in: >ls of /var/lib/mailman/archives: >drwxrws--- 200 l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >Fairly early in message processing, Mailman logs to either logs/post >(showing that the post was accepted) or to logs/vette (indicating that >the post was held or rejected, and why). One minor point here. The post log entry is not written until the message is deliver

[Mailman-Users] certificates for subscribers..application to provide and check???

2007-04-27 Thread David Southwell
Hi Before starting to build it  I am wondering if anyone knows of a port that will do what I require. I am reluctant (and too lazy ) to want to reinvent the wheel!!! I want to offer maillist users a certificate, signed by us, that they will be asked  to use to certify their identity when posti

[Mailman-Users] Quick question about spam filtering

2007-04-27 Thread Jason LaMar
Lately, our Mailman lists have been getting more "self-addressed" junk messages -- that is, [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets spam that is spoofing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the sender. In the spam filtering interface, what would be the easiest regex combination to ensure that, as an example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Rolf E. Sonneveld writes: > today I have a similar (or the same?) problem. Running Mailman V2.1.9. > Symptoms in my case: a new member (added with the command line utility > add_members) is subscribed properly, the associated mail address gets a > welcome message (so far so good), but mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did you ever find a solution to this issue? > > I realize that this is a really old posting: > > I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; > >Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris sendmail[2756]: h5A9R392002756: >from=

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread David Southwell
On Thursday 26 April 2007 22:49:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did you ever find a solution to this issue? > > I realize that this is a really old posting: > > I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; > >Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris sendmail[2756]: h5A9R3920