Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/14/07, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Simple - yes. Effective? Depends on what you are after. By doing it this way you are not really different from AOL, are you? You punish many users just because some other are thoughtless and lazy. When I offer something,

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Dave Dewey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do you use VERP to send out the mails? If you do that you can see who the culprit is. VERP doesn't work any longer for these, as of a couple months ago. Damn! My last TOS notification dates back quite some time... They now redact ALL information that can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brandon Slaten wrote: I just moved our Mailman lists to a new server. Accessing the listinfo and admin pages works fine. After creating a new list mail sent to that list is delivered. However mail set to the old lists, the ones that were moved to this server, is not delivered. What happens

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Brandon Slaten
Some additional information: The old server: Using Mailman version: 2.1.6 Compiled from src. SunOS 5.8 Generic_117350-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-4 The new server: Using Mailman version: 2.1.5 Installed from mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.5 Linux 2.6.9-55.0.2.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Jun 12 17:59:08 EDT 2007

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brandon Slaten wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Brandon Slaten wrote: ~mailman - /usr/lib/mailman There is no lock, qfiles, or log directories there to look at to assess items 6-8 in the link above. In redhat 2.1.5, they may be in /var/mailman (see below) I did find the mentioned mailman logs in

[Mailman-Users] Failures showing in the log file?

2007-07-15 Thread Dennis Carr
OK, something I notice in my posts log is a message not entirely unlike the following: Jul 15 09:27:31 2007 (32571) post to list from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5706, message-id=redacted, 557 failures Now, as time progresses, that failures number counts down, and ultimately, there is a success

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2007-07-15 Thread Jens Andersson
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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-15 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting Christopher X. Candreva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Dave Dewey wrote: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, maybe I'm just lucky. Is your server on the AOL whitelist ? Yep. I get very few complaints, 99% of them accidental, so for me it's just a way to contact

Re: [Mailman-Users] Failures showing in the log file?

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis Carr wrote: OK, something I notice in my posts log is a message not entirely unlike the following: Jul 15 09:27:31 2007 (32571) post to list from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5706, message-id=redacted, 557 failures Now, as time progresses, that failures number counts down, and ultimately,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: Brandon Slaten wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Brandon Slaten wrote: ~mailman - /usr/lib/mailman There is no lock, qfiles, or log directories there to look at to assess items 6-8 in the link above. In redhat 2.1.5, they may be in /var/mailman But OTOH, the fact that the lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: OK, so VERP is still the way to go, since the message-id is always different Do you mean the SMTP id in the first Received: (from Mailman) header? You can get the recipient from your MTA log using this, but the Message-ID: header is normally unchanged from the incoming