Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmationsubject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 11/27/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > As a point of reference however, there are lots of lists on python.org > and some are quite busy (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and they are > personalized and it seems to work OK. Brad has posted on this in the > past >

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmation subject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 11/27/07, Christopher Adams wrote: > One concern - Charles mentioned how 'expensive' it was to use VERP > with Postfix. I am wondering what kind of hit on the responsiveness of > my Mailman server will be. There has been some research on this topic, which is summarized at

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmationsubject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Adams wrote: > >One concern - Charles mentioned how 'expensive' it was to use VERP >with Postfix. I am wondering what kind of hit on the responsiveness of >my Mailman server will be. I have over 500 lists and 250,000 >subscribers. If VERP being used for Mailman causes more mail activity

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmation subject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Christopher Adams
Geez, now I don't know who to listen to. :>). Anyway, my assumption was wrong and I based it on the invitation confirmation not completely working. Now it does and I thank you both. One concern - Charles mentioned how 'expensive' it was to use VERP with Postfix. I am wondering what kind of hit on

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmation subject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 11/27/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Quoting from , aka 'man 5 > postconf' > > recipient_delimiter (default: empty) That man page may or may not describe the current state of affairs, and of course even if it does then you might be dealing with an older

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmation subject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Charles Marcus
On 11/27/2007, Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> On 11/27/2007, Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>> Yes, one would think that, but you do need to set >>> >>> recipient_delimiter = + >>> >>> in main.cf, even though the Postfix document doesn't get to >>> that until much later. >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question aboutinvitationconfirmationsubject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Charles Marcus wrote: >On 11/27/2007, Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Yes, one would think that, but you do need to set >> >> recipient_delimiter = + >> >> in main.cf, even though the Postfix document doesn't get to that until >> much later. > >No, you don't - this is the default... yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitationconfirmationsubject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Charles Marcus
On 11/27/2007, Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Yes, one would think that, but you do need to set > > recipient_delimiter = + > > in main.cf, even though the Postfix document doesn't get to that until > much later. No, you don't - this is the default... you only need to explicitly set i

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitationconfirmationsubject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Adams wrote: >Thank you for clarifying that. I assumed from the Postfix/VERP >configuration documentation (below) that the '+' delimiter would be >used regardless of entering it in the Postfix main.cf file. I should >tried adding it anyway, but I hadn't gotten to that step yet. Thanks

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmationsubject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Christopher Adams
Thank you for clarifying that. I assumed from the Postfix/VERP configuration documentation (below) that the '+' delimiter would be used regardless of entering it in the Postfix main.cf file. I should tried adding it anyway, but I hadn't gotten to that step yet. Thanks, it works as it should. Quot

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our Mailing List Disappeared

2007-11-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pam McKenna wrote: >Our Mailing List, list.nesae.org, has disappeared - Mailman says no such >list exists, our sign in info. isn't working. Anyone know what caused >this? How do i get it back? That is not a list, it is a host name. I'm not sure what the issue is, but I can go to

Re: [Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmationsubject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Adams wrote: > >One question- Since the subject line is changed and replaces the >confirmation ID code with other text, does that mean that simple >replying to the message to confirmm will no work? It will still work if your incoming MTA recognizes addresses of the form [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman does not like german umlaute

2007-11-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andre Tann wrote: > >machine. Now everything works fine, except one thing: sending a mail >with a german umlaut in the subject line looks sometimes normal, >but sometimes it looks like this: > > Jemand erhält Zuschlag für Einkauf > >The sender is an Entourage on a Mac OS X. If the Mac

[Mailman-Users] another question about invitation confirmation subject line/VERP

2007-11-27 Thread Christopher Adams
I have read the FAQ about modifying the mm_cfg.py file to create a more "user friendly" subject for confirmations. I implemented this with my Mailman/Postfix setup. I mainly wanted it for Invitation confirmations, but I understand that for newer versions of Mailman, it works for other confirmations

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for an experienced installer

2007-11-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 11/27/07, Tony Fyler wrote: > I'm just looking for anyone with experience of installing Mailman to get in > touch with me to discuss the possibility of this job. I'll be glad to talk to you about what's required, but I'm not currently in a position to help with the actual installation and

[Mailman-Users] Mailman does not like german umlaute

2007-11-27 Thread Andre Tann
Hello everyone, I'm running a # rpm -q mailman mailman-2.1.6-4.2 on a # cat /etc/SuSE-release SUSE LINUX 10.0 (i586) OSS VERSION = 10.0 machine. Now everything works fine, except one thing: sending a mail with a german umlaut in the subject line looks sometimes normal, but sometimes it loo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our Mailing List Disappeared

2007-11-27 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Pam McKenna schrieb: > Our Mailing List, list.nesae.org, has disappeared - Mailman says no such > list exists, our sign in info. isn't working. Anyone know what caused > this? How do i get it back? Contact nesae.org administrator and ask him if he/she changed anything with virtual host config

[Mailman-Users] Our Mailing List Disappeared

2007-11-27 Thread Pam McKenna
Our Mailing List, list.nesae.org, has disappeared - Mailman says no such list exists, our sign in info. isn't working. Anyone know what caused this? How do i get it back? thank you. Pam -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

[Mailman-Users] Looking for an experienced installer

2007-11-27 Thread Tony Fyler
Hi folks, My name's Tony, and I'm the editor at the Royal Institute of Navigation here in London. We used to run a couple of listservs for specific groups of our members, but recently changed both our website and mail server, making these listservs defunct. It turns out that our new mail server pac