Hello,
I would like to use Mailman for sending newsletter to all subscribed
users from my website. The users should not realise that the newsletter
is part of a mailing list, because they should subscribe and unsubscribe
through my website.
I configured mailman that it doesn't send welcome messag
Anyone? This is actually now a little worse - I updated the kernel (from
2.6.17 to 2.6.23), and mailman still won't start (gives me the [ !! ]
error when I issue the /etc/init.d/mailman start command anad at boot
time) - but now, the qrunner obviously isn't starting either, because
the lists we
Several times this week I've received spam to my lists which are set
to allow postings only by list members. Upon review, something
(either bot or human, but I'm betting bot as they hit many lists at
once) subscribed the spam sender email to the lists via the web form,
sent the spam, then unsubscr
Matt Domsch wrote:
>Several times this week I've received spam to my lists which are set
>to allow postings only by list members. Upon review, something
>(either bot or human, but I'm betting bot as they hit many lists at
>once) subscribed the spam sender email to the lists via the web form,
>sen
Bernd wrote:
>
>My friend use command line scripts
>(http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html) to subscribe/unsubscribe
>the users through his website to Mailman.
>I am not able to use this scripts and had to use the email interface
>(http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/node10.h
>Are there plans to enhance the web subscription form with a type of
>captcha, or other technique to discourage bots?
>Anyone else hit by this practice much?
Human assisted registration is becoming more popular - apparently there is even
setups where they auto farm-out the capcha recognition to
On Jan 3, 2008, at 8:25 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
> On 1/3/08, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>> I will change this to make the relevant sort
>>
>> $SORT -n $SORT_FIELD
>>
>> with an appropriate definition of SORT_FIELD in the front with the
>> other definitions.
>
> That should work. I'll also make that ch
On Jan 6, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> I've never seen it on lists with subscribe_policy of either Confirm or
> Approve. I don't allow open subscribe.
Years ago (2000?) I did see this happen with one or twice with lists
with a Confirm policy. These were majordomo lists, but still the
Hi again
I posted the following about two weeks ago. Can anybody help me with this one?
Thanks
Stefan
Hi all
I set up a mailman mailinglist (everything preinstalled on a
plesk-based hosting) and have a strange effect.
When I subscribe a user from my addres
On 1/6/08, Bernd wrote:
> But I would like to subscribe an user without "subscribe_policy". If the
> list-manager send an subscription the user should be subscribed
> immediately without confirm/approve - option.
Keep in mind that some of the techniques you're talking about using
could be eas
On 1/6/08, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> Anyone else hit by this practice much?
>
> I've never seen it on lists with subscribe_policy of either Confirm or
> Approve. I don't allow open subscribe.
I've seen spammers (or bots) get subscribed to lists and try to spam,
then unsubscribe. However, pretty
On 1/6/08, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> Isn't this the kind of thing that can be dealt with in the configure
> script? I don't know the autoconf tools, but I thought that this was
> the sort of problem it was designed to address.
For mmdsr, there is no "configure" script. I wrote mmdsr to help
On 1/7/08, Stefan Burkard wrote:
> I posted the following about two weeks ago. Can anybody help me
>with this one?
Two things:
1. You're using Plesk. You need to talk to your provider about
anything that might potentially be caused by Plesk or the customized
version of Mailman that they ha
Jeffrey Goldberg writes:
> On the whole, I have found these things so rare that it hasn't been a
> real problem. However, in principle lists could easily be targeted,
> so it is worth considering captchas.
Captchas have been discussed, and were not considered worthwhile.
(1) There are ma
Pluss with those of us with failing site captchas are anoying if we
don't have a pair of eyes to deal with it.
SA&G
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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jeffrey Goldberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Mailman Users" ; "Matt Domsch" <[EMAIL
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Hi All--
Brad Knowles wrote:
> On 1/7/08, Stefan Burkard wrote:
>
>> I posted the following about two weeks ago. Can anybody help me
>> with this one?
>
> Two things:
>
> 1. You're using Plesk. You need to talk to your provider about
> anything that might potentially be caused by Plesk or
Nor I. I have a double opt in for muy list. I get no spam what so ever.
SA&G
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Matt Domsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] bots subscribing to lists via web forms
t
On Jan 6, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
> On 1/6/08, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
>
>> Isn't this the kind of thing that can be dealt with in the configure
>> script?
> For mmdsr, there is no "configure" script. [...] This is an
> officially unsupported tool that is provided in a totally sep
On Jan 6, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Jeffrey Goldberg writes:
>
>> [...] it is worth considering captchas.
>
> Captchas have been discussed, and were not considered worthwhile.
[snip of explanation of the lack of effectiveness and annoyance of
capchas]
Thank you. I've alw
On 1/6/08 7:01 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (3) On the other hand, hard to read captchas are exactly that: hard to
> read. For humans, too. So introducing captchas the score is Spammers
> 2, Humans 0.
Yes indeed. One that takes me two to three tries to match is annoying
Stefan Burkard wrote:
>
> When I subscribe a user from my address by using the email-command
>with the optional "address=", the user receives the
>confirmation-message without problems. BUT if the user replies to the
>message (to confirm), he gets a welcome-message with the
>variable-codes instead
steve wrote:
>Ok, I found that if placed in /etc/cron.d the file is intended as a crontab
>which has the userfield as part of the command.. so the default crontab.in
>file is correct for that usage - but doesn't this mean the documentation is
>INCORRECT to tell you to directly install that file
On 1/6/08, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
> Plesk doesn't enter into this one. I'm using Plesk to create my lists,
> and this doesn't happen to me or my subscribers.
Plesk doesn't enter into this issue directly, but the fact that he's
using Plesk means that he probably can't make any of the necess
On 1/6/08, Sarah wrote:
> Nor I. I have a double opt in for muy list. I get no spam what so ever.
Double opt-in doesn't necessarily mean that you won't ever get spam,
it just means that you apparently haven't gotten any spam yet.
Moreover, the fact that you have not yet gotten any spam that ha
On 1/6/08, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> I suspect that with a Confirm subscription policy (which is the
> minimum anyone should run) there really isn't too much to worry about
> in that we can always end up requiring approval for subscriptions (or
> moderate) associated with domains that show a h
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