Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 29, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > I wouldn't say that I was channeling them. I would say that I'm > trying to do what I can to support them and to allow them to spend > what little time they have on their "real" work, as far as the >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > Thank you, sir, for the encouragement, but I don't want my > hypothetical > contribution to live this way. I've contributed plenty to various > open- (and > closed-) source projects over the years (

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

On 1/30/08, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > This is false. "Open source" means you can do what you like, and > Mailman actually will distribute it for you as a patch on the issue > tracker. Not quite. If he uploads his code as a patch to the tracker, we will most likely leave it there, and at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

On 1/29/08, Mikhail T. wrote: > As you may realize, I have no idea of the Mailman project hierarchy. Brad's > words sounded quite authoritative, and he was no contradicted in any > follow-ups... I'm not a core developer for the project. I'm just the current active postmaster/Internet mail sy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

On 1/29/08, Mikhail T. wrote: > May I suggest, you underestimate the importance of this feature? >Cross-posting > may often be justified from the end-user perspective, but is discouraged by > the admins exactly because it increases the archival-storage requirements... I've never once heard an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 29, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: > вівторок 29 січень 2008 12:05 по, Steve Burling Ви > написали: >> I love comments like this. If it "can't be too difficult...", I >> suggest >> you put on your Python programming hat, and get codi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

With regards to the Mailman project, Barry Warsaw is the only one who can give you the definitive answer as to whether or not this concept is or is not acceptable in principal. Mark Sapiro and Tokio Kikuchi may disagree with him, and if so it will be up to them to convince him that they are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

I was speaking in terms of the practical reality of a 100% unpaid all- volunteer project, like Mailman. There are simply way too many other things going on that are much higher priority. If you pay certain Mailman developers real money for such a feature, then it will get done. If you write s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

Google does not provide all the storage for all the content in question, although they may have a cache of it. -- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:21 AM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brad Knowles writes: > >> No search engine

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

вівторок 29 січень 2008 05:24 по, Stephen J. Turnbull Ви написали: > This is false.  "Open source" means you can do what you like, and > Mailman actually will distribute it for you as a patch on the issue > tracker.  Many contributions have lived full life cycles that way. Thank you, sir, for the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Edit monthly reminder? - solved

Mikael Hansen wrote: >On Jan 15, 2008, at 10:43, Brad Knowles wrote: > >> It's a template stored in /usr/local/mailman/templates/en/, which >> you can copy to /usr/local/mailman/lists//en/, and then >> edit it locally in that directory. > >Done, including sudo bin/mailmanctl restart, but unfor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

> Mikhail T. writes: > Whatever I code up will, naturally, need to be approved by the > project-maintainers. This is why securing their acceptance /in > principle/ is important before beginning the actual work. This is false. "Open source" means you can do what you like, and Mailman actua

[Mailman-Users] script to take debian /var/lib/mailman/vritual-mailman to /etc/postfix/relay_domains /etc/postfix/reply_recipients /etc/postfix/transport_maps

If you are running debian etch postfix with heavy spam filtering on one machine and debian etch mailman on another machine without much spam filtering this script will take the postfix virtual-mailman file on the listserv mailman machine and create the files needed by postfix to relay the mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

Mikhail T. sent the message below at 09:17 1/29/2008: >Whatever I code up will, naturally, need to be approved by the >project-maintainers. This is why securing their acceptance /in >principle/ is important before beginning the actual work. As long as >the official position remains:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing mail

Melinda Gilmore wrote: >I am totally stumped, I have looked at all the logs including our mail >logs. I send a message to a list and it just goes to lala land. I have >attached a copy of the logs, Removed by content filtering? Or just the below? >hopeing somebody else eyes can see somethi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

вівторок 29 січень 2008 12:05 по, Steve Burling Ви написали: > I love comments like this.  If it "can't be too difficult...", I suggest > you put on your Python programming hat, and get coding. Whatever I code up will, naturally, need to be approved by the project-maintainers. This is why securin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

--On January 29, 2008 11:09:21 AM -0500 "Mikhail T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope, you'll give the idea of "single instance storage" another > thought. There is already an option to archive in "Maildir" format. > Optionally storing hardlinks instead of copies of cross-posts can't be > to

[Mailman-Users] Missing mail

I am totally stumped, I have looked at all the logs including our mail logs. I send a message to a list and it just goes to lala land. I have attached a copy of the logs, hopeing somebody else eyes can see something I cannot, or another place to look. I have lookd in the mailman logs, and the

Re: [Mailman-Users] really dumb question on getting started; extracting archive

Holmes, Deb wrote: > How do you unzip the .tar and .gz files prior to install? For most > applications that I'm running on my unix based web server, my process is to > unzip on my Windows XP box prior to uploading to the web server. I know > basically nothing about unix except how to post files

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Disarmed} Re: Problem Bounce Processing Category

Roberto Gherardi wrote: > >this is my log bounce : > >Jan 29 10:17:22 2008 (29795) sending prova1 list probe to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 2.0 >= 2.0) The probe is not bouncing, or more likely it is bouncing but postfix is not delivering it back to Mailman, > > >this is my log postfix: >Jan 29

Re: [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of cross-posting

понеділок 28 січень 2008 08:05 по, Brad Knowles Ви написали: > We do not do a "single instance store" within the archiving system of > Mailman, and I can pretty much guarantee you that we never will. > That's not to say that this is necessarily a bad idea, but I think we > have much, much more imp

Re: [Mailman-Users] really dumb question on getting started; extracting archive

Charles Marcus wrote: >Holmes, Deb, on 1/29/2008 5:51 AM, said the following: >> How do you unzip the .tar and .gz files prior to install? For most > >www.7zip.org As I said in my reply to the OP, if you're trying to install Mailman on *nix, don't unzip it on Windows. In theory it should work

Re: [Mailman-Users] really dumb question on getting started; extracting archive

Holmes, Deb wrote: >How do you unzip the .tar and .gz files prior to install? In a command shell on your unix web server type man gunzip and man tar or tar --help for documentation. Depending on your specific tar, you should be able to do tar -xf mailman-2.1.10b1.tgz or gunzip -c mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Bounce Processing Category

"Roberto Gherardi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a problem with Bounce Processing Category's configuration. With >this configutation : > > >*bounce_processing = yes > >**bounce_score_threshold = 2.0 > >**bounce_info_stale_after = 365 > >**bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 2 > >**bounce_

Re: [Mailman-Users] really dumb question on getting started; extracting archive

Holmes, Deb, on 1/29/2008 5:51 AM, said the following: > How do you unzip the .tar and .gz files prior to install? For most www.7zip.org -- Best regards, Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Bounce Processing Category

Roberto Gherardi wrote: > >I have a problem with Bounce Processing Category's configuration. With >this configutation : > > >*bounce_processing = yes > >**bounce_score_threshold = 2.0 > >**bounce_info_stale_after = 365 > >**bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 2 > >**bounce_you_are_disabled_warn

Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding Google Analytics to Mailman templates

Odieresis [Gmail] wrote: >I want to add Google Analytics to Mailman templates to track visits. >When I try to save /General Informations Page/ template with the code >from Analytics it changes the code. > >I paste this in: > >* http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js"; > type="text

[Mailman-Users] really dumb question on getting started; extracting archive

How do you unzip the .tar and .gz files prior to install? For most applications that I'm running on my unix based web server, my process is to unzip on my Windows XP box prior to uploading to the web server. I know basically nothing about unix except how to post files and write simple .cgi code.

[Mailman-Users] Problem Bounce Processing Category

Hi, I have a problem with Bounce Processing Category's configuration. With this configutation : *bounce_processing = yes **bounce_score_threshold = 2.0 **bounce_info_stale_after = 365 **bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 2 **bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 5 **bounce_unrec

[Mailman-Users] Adding Google Analytics to Mailman templates

I want to add Google Analytics to Mailman templates to track visits. When I try to save /General Informations Page/ template with the code from Analytics it changes the code. I paste this in: * http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js"; type="text/javascript">