Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman

Le 30/04/2014 06:02, Stephen J. Turnbull a écrit : I don't *expect* anybody to remember this advice, but it *might* save somebody some hairpulling someday, so I mention it. :-) yes, postconf -n is very usefull testing these applications is very difficult, because many apps are implicated in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

Jim Popovitch writes: > In 2 years people will be wondering how DMARC did hardly anything to > slow miscreants, just like some wondered why SPF, DKIM, PGP, SenderID, > etc didn't solved all of mankind's problems. N.B. PGP *would* solve the world's problems if the GPG folks would spend more ti

Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman

jdd writes: > and by the way logs are not always easy to find. Mailman's are not (on > openSUSE) available in /var/log, but in /var/lib/mailman/logs True. Postfix has a utility "postconf" and Mailman 3 will have a similar capability ("mailman info" IIRC; maybe Mailman 2 has it too?) that all

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > And think about it. If it were based on the presence of various headers, > how long to you think it would take the black hats to figure out what > they were and just put those headers into their phishing mails? :-) If not that, they the blac

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

On 04/29/2014 06:46 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > Actually probably not. I think the giveaway is the presense of the various > list specific headers (X-Mailman-Version:, List-Id:, List-Unsubscribe:, > List-Archive:, List-Post:, List-Help:, and List-Subscribe:). In other words, > they are using

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

On 04/29/2014 01:25 PM, Joseph Brennan wrote: > > I think Gmail is doing the same. It's a touch evil to make mail from > aol and yahoo less deliverable than your own... but it's what they asked > for. Gmail is honoring DMARC p=reject, but they have some magic for not applying it to mail from so

Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue approving subscription requests

On 04/29/2014 11:45 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > What about managing subscription requests? This script will do those too. > See the script at . The following won't work for (un)subscription because the notice to the admin doesn't contain t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

Lindsay Haisley wrote: They don't have to. All they have to do is respect AOL's and Yahoo's DMARC p=reject record and bounce non-aligning email from these ESPs accordingly. I think Gmail is doing the same. It's a touch evil to make mail from aol and yahoo less deliverable than your own...

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 15:18 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 15:55 -0400, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull > > > wrote: > > > > > Large services like Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail seem to be respecting > > > the policy despite the adverse

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 15:55 -0400, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: > On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull > wrote: > > > Large services > > like Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail seem to be respecting the policy > despite > > the adverse effect on their users (ie, getting unsubscribed). > > Pretty sur

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Large services > like Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail seem to be respecting the policy despite > the adverse effect on their users (ie, getting unsubscribed). Pretty sure Hotmail has not set their dmarc record to reject. Where are you seeing th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue approving subscription requests

What about managing subscription requests? On Apr 29, 2014 11:38 AM, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > On 04/29/2014 11:09 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > Thanks, Mark. It's almost certainly the redirect issue. > > > > Is there a way to do manual approvals from the command line until I can > > get rid of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue approving subscription requests

On 04/29/2014 11:09 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > Thanks, Mark. It's almost certainly the redirect issue. > > Is there a way to do manual approvals from the command line until I can > get rid of the redirect? See the script at . Also, if you set

Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue approving subscription requests

Thanks, Mark. It's almost certainly the redirect issue. Is there a way to do manual approvals from the command line until I can get rid of the redirect? On Apr 29, 2014 9:39 AM, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > On 04/29/2014 08:30 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > For a list I recently migrated from 2.1.

Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman

Le 29/04/2014 18:55, Lindsay Haisley a écrit : Probably at least half the problems I see on this list, and several others I'm on, could be definitively addressed, if not completely solved, by reference to system or application logs. you are often true. But on this part it was not visible on th

[Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

Gregori Kurtzman, DDS writes: Your address is invalid, I hope you're reading the list. > Need some insight and help. I have recently taken over a list that > is using mailman v 2.1.14. And we are getting a lot of bounce > notices regarding members and de-activation's of their > subscriptions

Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman

On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 09:43 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > I receive the message if I try to subscribe a list, then nothing - I > > receive the confirmation message, but no acknowledgement. looks like the > > mail do not reach mailman. > > Look at the logs from your mail server. Does it receive the

Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman

Le 29/04/2014 18:43, Mark Sapiro a écrit : On 04/29/2014 08:39 AM, jdd wrote: I receive the message if I try to subscribe a list, then nothing - I receive the confirmation message, but no acknowledgement. looks like the mail do not reach mailman. Look at the logs from your mail server. Does

Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman

On 04/29/2014 08:39 AM, jdd wrote: > > I receive the message if I try to subscribe a list, then nothing - I > receive the confirmation message, but no acknowledgement. looks like the > mail do not reach mailman. Look at the logs from your mail server. Does it receive the message? If so, what doe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue approving subscription requests

On 04/29/2014 08:30 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > For a list I recently migrated from 2.1.14 on one machine to 2.1.17 on > another, I'm unable to approve pending subscription requests. After making > my choices and clicking "Submit all data", the radio buttons simply reset > themselves with no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

On 04/28/2014 01:09 PM, Gregori Kurtzman, DDS wrote: > Need some insight and help. I have recently taken over a list that is using > mailman v 2.1.14. And we are getting a lot of bounce notices regarding > members and de-activation's of their subscriptions due to this. In the > bounce notices I

[Mailman-Users] Issue approving subscription requests

For a list I recently migrated from 2.1.14 on one machine to 2.1.17 on another, I'm unable to approve pending subscription requests. After making my choices and clicking "Submit all data", the radio buttons simply reset themselves with no changes made to the subscriber records. "check_perms -f" a

[Mailman-Users] Excessive bounces to list members on my list

Need some insight and help. I have recently taken over a list that is using mailman v 2.1.14. And we are getting a lot of bounce notices regarding members and de-activation's of their subscriptions due to this. In the bounce notices I get as list manager I see the following 'This message faile

[Mailman-Users] moving mailman

Hello, I hate disturbing you :-(, but I can't manage it myself :-( my original mailman server broke. I had a backup. I loan a new hosted server, mailman is here: http://culte.org/mailman/listinfo the list "test" should be open. I followed all the infos to move mailman from here: http://wiki