Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway

2014-05-05 Thread jdd
Le 06/05/2014 01:42, Mark Sapiro a écrit : $ bin/withlist -l test well...I'm cursed :-( this worked with the test list, but not with the main list! same symptoms: list is "linux-31" linux-31 newsgroup works linux-31 mailman list works post to the list go to the newsgroup but posts to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway

2014-05-05 Thread jdd
Le 06/05/2014 01:42, Mark Sapiro a écrit : The test list's high watermark for the newsgroup is 31. This means no posts prior to #32 in the newsgroup will be gated to the list. ok. I suspected some sort of thing like this Use bin/withlist and do the following $ bin/withlist -l test Loading

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.18 final release

2014-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/03/2014 11:30 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I'm pleased to announce the final release for Mailman 2.1.18. It appears that the from_is_list and dmarc_moderation_actions Wrap Message actions may run afoul of this issue in the Python email library in versions olde

Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject

2014-05-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > > On 5 May 2014, at 4:59 pm, "Stephen J. Turnbull" > > wrote: > > them. But when you (FVO "you" susceptible to phishing in the first > Sorry, what does FVO stand for? Ah, excuse my abbreviations. FVO = "for values of"; the intended implication is that the "you" read

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to reconfirm a list

2014-05-05 Thread Peter Shute
Keith Bierman wrote: > > ​But since the OP said > ". New > subscribers are asked to subscribe to a yahoo group instead." > > I assumed it was really Yahoo (perhaps under a mask as mail > provider for some other named service, ala comcast ;>) who > was doing the blacklisting... > who else would

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to reconfirm a list

2014-05-05 Thread Keith Bierman
> > > ​... > > > I don't discount this possibility, but the rejections just go back to > the Mailman server and the list, and reports of the rejections go to the > people publishing the DMARC p=reject policy for their domain. I don't > see how any of this winds up being delivered to some third part

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to reconfirm a list

2014-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/05/2014 08:43 PM, Keith Bierman wrote: > > I naively thought that > a formerly well functioning list having a number of yahoo members might > have resulted in enough rejection/bounces that some "anti-spam bot" > might declare the list itself forbidden ;>​ I don't discount this possibility,

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to reconfirm a list

2014-05-05 Thread Keith Bierman
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/05/2014 08:33 PM, Keith Bierman wrote: > > > > Wouldn't this be likely to be another DMARC victim? > > > Perhaps you can imagine such a scenario. I don't see it. > ​I defer to your much greater wisdom in the area. I naively thought that

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to reconfirm a list

2014-05-05 Thread Keith Bierman
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/05/2014 06:47 PM, Richard Shetron wrote: > > I looked through the list admin manual and didn't see anything about > > reconfirming a list. Is there an easy way to have mailman reconfirm a > list? > > > What does "reconfirm a list" mean t

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to reconfirm a list

2014-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/05/2014 08:33 PM, Keith Bierman wrote: > > Wouldn't this be likely to be another DMARC victim? Perhaps you can imagine such a scenario. I don't see it. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to reconfirm a list

2014-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/05/2014 06:47 PM, Richard Shetron wrote: > I looked through the list admin manual and didn't see anything about > reconfirming a list. Is there an easy way to have mailman reconfirm a list? What does "reconfirm a list" mean to you? Do you perhaps mean get a list of the list's members? If

[Mailman-Users] best way to reconfirm a list

2014-05-05 Thread Richard Shetron
I looked through the list admin manual and didn't see anything about reconfirming a list. Is there an easy way to have mailman reconfirm a list? I have a list that has been in use for 5+years and all of a sudden maps is saying I'm hitting a spam trap. The list has not been added to in at least 3

Re: [Mailman-Users] inn gateway

2014-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/05/2014 09:22 AM, jdd wrote: > > but when I post in the newsgroup, I don't see it in the list! "gateway > to mail" is ticked in the two lines in the administrative interface > > fromusenet log: > > s-r:~ # tail /var/lib/mailman/logs/fromusenet > May 05 18:10:02 2014 (12680) test watermark:

[Mailman-Users] inn gateway

2014-05-05 Thread jdd
Hello, I have now a running mailman and a running inn news server - only for mailing lists access (news.culte.org) I try to setup the gateway. in mailman, I wrote localhost as news server (the two apps are on the same machine) and "test" as test list. test list works test newsgroup works

Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject

2014-05-05 Thread John Levine
>> I'm on lots of lists with Paypal employees, who consistently use >> paypal-inc.com addresses, specicially to avoid DMARC problems. > >$ dig +short -t txt _dmarc.paypal-inc.com >"v=DMARC1\; p=reject\; rua=mailto:d...@rua.agari.com\; >ruf=mailto:d...@bounce.paypal.com,mailto:d...@ruf.agari.com";

Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject

2014-05-05 Thread John Levine
>$ dig +short -t txt _dmarc.paypal.com >"v=DMARC1\; p=reject\; rua=mailto:d...@rua.agari.com\; >ruf=mailto:d...@bounce.paypal.com,mailto:d...@ruf.agari.com"; I'm on lots of lists with Paypal employees, who consistently use paypal-inc.com addresses, specicially to avoid DMARC problems. They reali

Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject

2014-05-05 Thread Malcolm Austen
On Mon, 05 May 2014 09:24:59 +0100, Peter Shute wrote: They get a warning? I thought it just bounced, and the intended recipient never knew. That was how I (thought I) understood it but I have heard of mailman distributed messages from AOL & Yahoo addresses being put into spam rather tha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject

2014-05-05 Thread Peter Shute
> On 5 May 2014, at 4:59 pm, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > Peter Shute writes: > >> How does Yahoo's DMARC policy reduce the benefit of Paypal's? >> Because servers can't follow the reject recommendation without > > No, it's because users get used to ignoring warnings about DMARC > issues.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject

2014-05-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > How does Yahoo's DMARC policy reduce the benefit of Paypal's? > Because servers can't follow the reject recommendation without No, it's because users get used to ignoring warnings about DMARC issues. If it was *only* your bank, you'd learn to pay attention to them. But w