[Mailman-Users] Get newer version of Mailman for Debian 6?

2014-05-14 Thread Sascha Rissel
Hello there, I am running a vServer on Debian6. Via "apt-get install mailman" I installed and set up Mailman 2.1.13, which is running fine with 5 mailing lists on my server. Motivated by all those discussions about Yahoo's DMARC on this list, I wondered whether I can upgrade my Mailman installati

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Mailman broke!

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2014 04:26 PM, Jan Steinman wrote: > I'm using the Mailman and postfix that came bundled with MacOS X 10.6 (Snow > Leopard) on a Mac Mini Server. See the FAQ at . Yes, I know you probably can't get help from Apple, but Apple's Mailman is known to be patched

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
That did the trick. Thanks again. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/14/2014 07:58 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > Here you go: > > > > admin(38814): [- Traceback --] > > admin(38814): Traceback (most recent call last): > > admin(38814): File "/opt/local/sha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2014 07:58 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: > Here you go: > > admin(38814): [- Traceback --] > admin(38814): Traceback (most recent call last): > admin(38814): File "/opt/local/share/mailman/ > scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main > admin(38814): main() > admin(38814): File

[Mailman-Users] Dealing with rate limiting from Roadrunner/Time Warner

2014-05-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Conrad G T Yoder writes: > Has anyone had to deal with bounces due to rate limiting from > Roadrunner/Time Warner? Are these true bounces (ie, permanent delivery failures) or just the temporary failures due to rate limiting, causing delays of many hours or days in delivery? > http://postmaste

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > When MS365 forwards the mails sent to the distribution list, should > that make the DMARC authentication fail? I thought that only > happened if you made changes like adding a prefix to the subject > line like Mailman does. If it forwards verbatim *and* the sending domai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread John Levine
>Actually, From: domains can request reports even if DMARC p=none. It is >unclear what might be done with these reports, but given what some >domains have done with DMARC already, I for one would not be surprised >if this information was used to color the reputation of the sending server. > >Note t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry S. Finkel writes: > Is this also true? > > Users from DMARC-reject domains send mail to mailing lists, and the > resulting mail from the mailing list is rejected. Enough > rejections can cause the mailing list possibly to be blacklisted > for sending lots of "spam" mail. The rejecti

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Mailman broke!

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
Do you have the virtual domains listed at the end of ../mailman/mailman/mm_cfg.py ? Something like: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '103.greenbuilder.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '103.greenbuilder.com' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('builderswithoutborders.org','builderswi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
Here you go: admin(38814): [- Traceback --] admin(38814): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(38814): File "/opt/local/share/mailman/ scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main admin(38814): main() admin(38814): File "/opt/local/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 63, in

[Mailman-Users] Dealing with rate limiting from Roadrunner/Time Warner

2014-05-14 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
Has anyone had to deal with bounces due to rate limiting from Roadrunner/Time Warner? http://postmaster.rr.com/spam#ratelimit If so, what did you do to resolve the problem? (That is, if things “got resolved.”) My hosting provider, DreamHost, continues to assert this is my problem and not the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2014 01:24 PM, Barry S. Finkel wrote: > > Is this also true? > > Users from DMARC-reject domains send mail to mailing lists, and the > resulting mail from the mailing list is rejected. Enough rejections > can cause the mailing list possibly to be blacklisted for sending lots > of "spam"

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2014 10:42 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > The problem_list gets "we hit a bug", but since I've taken the > subscription form off the listinfo page the only ones who will get that > are the spammers. It shouldn't get that. There is still something wrong with the patch or its application

[Mailman-Users] Virtual Mailman broke!

2014-05-14 Thread Jan Steinman
I'm using the Mailman and postfix that came bundled with MacOS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) on a Mac Mini Server. I have problems adding new lists using the web interface. It's been a problem forever, but I've forgotten the magic fixes to magic files that I've done in the past to correct it. I have a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Jan Steinman
> I've got a problem with one of my lists where it's being flooded with > spurious subscription requests... from the same address... Perhaps obvious, and perhaps in the FAQ Mark linked, but this sounds like a job for ipfw to me. I regularly get spambot subscription requests, and they go right i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Peter Shute
Gary Algier wrote: > I created a test distribution list here. I created local > contacts that forward to my personal gmail.com and icloud.com > addresses. I added these and my work address to the list. > Email from gmail and icloud works fine, however the author > address ("From:") carries

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 14 May 2014 15:24:32 -0500 "Barry S. Finkel" wrote: > > On 5/14/2014 2:49 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Gary Algier writes: > > > > > I have been following the discussion of the DMARC issues and Mailman's > > > attempts to live with it. I was wondering if anyone has an "Executi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Larry Finch
On May 14, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Barry S. Finkel wrote: > > Is this also true? > > Users from DMARC-reject domains send mail to mailing lists, and the > resulting mail from the mailing list is rejected. Enough rejections > can cause the mailing list possibly to be blacklisted for sending lots > o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 5/14/2014 2:49 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Gary Algier writes: > I have been following the discussion of the DMARC issues and Mailman's > attempts to live with it. I was wondering if anyone has an "Executive > Summary" of the DMARC issue in a general sense. How about the following:

[Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Gary Algier writes: > I have been following the discussion of the DMARC issues and Mailman's > attempts to live with it. I was wondering if anyone has an "Executive > Summary" of the DMARC issue in a general sense. How about the following: DMARC is a set of protocols for Internet mail that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
On 5/14/14 10:35 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Sorry, that's my mistake. It should be if listname == 'problem_list': i.e., ==, not =. Comparing subscribe.py with subscribe.py.bak, it appears that it's in there as written. I was wondering about that. Thanks. Now the problem_list is disallowed from w

[Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

2014-05-14 Thread Gary Algier
Hello, I have been following the discussion of the DMARC issues and Mailman's attempts to live with it. I was wondering if anyone has an "Executive Summary" of the DMARC issue in a general sense. The information on the wiki talks about the impact on Mailman, but I need a generic explanation

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2014 08:20 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: > Thanks. > > Running the patch I got: > > patching file /path/to/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py > patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line > Hunk #1 succeeded at 53 with fuzz 1 (offset -1 lines). > > (with the actual path in there) The patch

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
Thanks. Running the patch I got: patching file /path/to/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line Hunk #1 succeeded at 53 with fuzz 1 (offset -1 lines). (with the actual path in there) When trying to run a subscription I got the "We hit a bug" error. Error log

Re: [Mailman-Users] A word to the wise: spam-checking and RFC conformance

2014-05-14 Thread Matthew Needham
On my server, it was being instead by spamassassin and was then visible in each message handled by Mailman. The “content-preview” in the header is easily removed in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf. Matthew On May 14, 2014, at 02:52 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Hi all, > > I just discove

[Mailman-Users] A word to the wise: spam-checking and RFC conformance

2014-05-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Hi all, I just discovered that the spam-checker for a non-Mailman list I subscribe to (I suspect SpamAssassin but I can't confirm yet, the MLM is ListServ) is introducing 8-bit characters into the header. What appears to be happening is that the original post uses a Content-Transfer-Encoding of 8