Re: [Mailman-Users] [discuss] configuration of the maillist server from 1net.org

2014-06-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/24/2014 08:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > Getting a second regular subscription won't do anything, but I was > suggesting adding a DIGEST subscription, which will arrive (eventually) > and thus giving you confirmation that the message did go through. As a Gmail user you can get "immediate"

Re: [Mailman-Users] [discuss] configuration of the maillist server from 1net.org

2014-06-24 Thread Richard Damon
On 6/24/14, 9:35 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: If you don't like this feature, you will have to use a different mail service from GMail, or live with it. You may be able to work around it by fiddling with the subscription address as Richard suggests, but I bet it doesn't work (these are differe

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC

2014-06-24 Thread Larry Finch
I've gotten a dozen or more similar phishing messages. Shows how effective DMARC is - NOT Regards Larry Sent from my iPad > On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:51 PM, "Barry S. Finkel" wrote: > > I have in one of my mailboxes a scam from June 10 that has > > From: Chase Notification > > In the web M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Internet Message Format: Identification Fields

2014-06-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Richard Damon writes: > The internet protocols disagree on that minor modification create a new > email. No, they don't. There's only one RFC that matters, and that's RFC 5322 (or whichever version of that standard that you prefer, but on this they're basically in agreement). RFC 5322 says:

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC handler

2014-06-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ron Guerin writes: > I would really like to do, as someone said earlier, just say "Friends > don't let Friends use Yahoo or AOL Mail." But count me in with those > expecting Gmail to be next. That's nearly half the subscribers of the > list I've been asking in regard to. I think GMail would

[Mailman-Users] DMARC

2014-06-24 Thread Barry S. Finkel
I have in one of my mailboxes a scam from June 10 that has From: Chase Notification In the web MUA I use for this account, only the display name Chase Notification is shown on the screen as the sender. DMARC obviously will not help in this case. I have no idea if the scammers are

Re: [Mailman-Users] [discuss] configuration of the maillist server from 1net.org

2014-06-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
willi uebelherr writes: > now i think, it is clear. The feature "duplicate suppression" is a fix > mechanism. I will wait for the answers of the people from the > mailman-users list, what the say about. But in Gmail with a user > configuration never i can resolve the problem. That's right.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Internet Message Format: Identification Fields

2014-06-24 Thread Richard Damon
The internet protocols disagree on that minor modification create a new email. For instance, EVERY step of mail deliver is REQUIRED to change the headers of the message, so that would say every step should change the Message-ID, which distorts some of its use. The RFC's also say that if a mess

Re: [Mailman-Users] Internet Message Format: Identification Fields

2014-06-24 Thread willi uebelherr
Dear William and Mark and all, many thanks for your answer. I understand, that never you want to make any special action for a specific task for Gmail. But now, for me it is not a question of the specific "duplicate suppression" from google-mail. it is a more general debate about the princi