Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Peter Shute
Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Is limiting normally applied strictly per recipient? Or > does it reduce the problem if lots of the members are on one > domain? 50% of our members are with just 5 domains. > > It depends on the specific service and their policies. They > could limit recipients or SMTP t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Ed Kaler
<< On 7/20/2014 3:35 PM, Peter Shute wrote: Does dreamhost keep their mailman up to date? >> My 'understanding' is that above has a non-answer because there is allegedly distinct difference between an ISP offering MM 2.1.15 and QUIETLY offering cPanel's "version" ALSO bearing the I.D. as

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > No, it's all hosted via cpanel. Does this mail per hour limit seem > odd with that sort of setup? To me it seems like a good way to chase away customers, but IIRC over the years many people have posted to this list about such limitations (usually under the subject of "how

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/20/2014 08:06 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > Is limiting normally applied strictly per recipient? Or does it reduce the > problem if lots of the members are on one domain? 50% of our members are with > just 5 domains. It depends on the specific service and their policies. They could limit re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Peter Shute
Mark Sapiro wrote: > That said, if you search the archives of this list, you will > find many reports of hosting services that provide Mailman > list "support" and limit outgoing mail rates from those lists. Is limiting normally applied strictly per recipient? Or does it reduce the problem if

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/20/2014 08:25 AM, Dave Nathanson wrote: > I'm surprised that any web/email host would apply a rule intended for a > personal email account to a listserve. Don Quixote says see the FAQ at . That said, if you search the archives of t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
Always beware when businesses attempt to describe their competitor’s products. That’s pretty disingenuous of you, Brian. On that page you mention, it plainly says: > Discussion Lists (created via our control panel): unlimited recipients per > hour > > • Max recipients per message: unlimited >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Peter Shute
That dreamhost page says there's an smtp limit of 100 recipients an hour, which would be unworkable for 1000 plus members, but also mentions "announce lists", which don't have limits. The announce lists page says these are different from "discussion lists", but the discussion lists page doesn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Brian Carpenter
Dreamhost also throttles their SMTP servers: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/SMTP_quota By not keeping their Mailman installation up to date is also VERY problematic since certain ISPs' DMARC policies impacts mailing lists everywhere. If you were serious about your mailing list(s), I would not use them

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Peter Shute
No, it's all hosted via cpanel. Does this mail per hour limit seem odd with that sort of setup? Does dreamhost keep their mailman up to date? We're still on 2.1.15, and when I asked about upgrading, they wouldn't commit to any date, only that it would be more likely to be months than a month.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Dave Nathanson
I'm surprised that any web/email host would apply a rule intended for a personal email account to a listserve. I'm guessing that you are running MailMan on your own computer, then using mail server provided by your email hosting company to send the messages. So to the email host, you do look lik

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-20 Thread Russell Woodford
Hi Peter, Mark and all I think I may have the solution now (Peter is one of our list moderators). My web host is now telling me that there is a 200 emails per hour limit for my hosting plan. We have 1140 subscribers. That means we blow the limit out of the water EVERY time someone posts! I'm not