Re: [Mailman-Users] Syslog in Mailman

2015-05-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/03/2015 02:54 PM, Eric Lamer wrote: > >I have Mailman installed on my Debian and I don't get any message in my > syslog server from Mailman. I have exim4 on the same server and I get syslog > from it. Mailman has its own logging facility. It calls it syslog, but it is Mailman's own

[Mailman-Users] Syslog in Mailman

2015-05-03 Thread Eric Lamer
Hi, I have Mailman installed on my Debian and I don't get any message in my syslog server from Mailman. I have exim4 on the same server and I get syslog from it. I have generated some stuff in mailman, like creating a list etc and I see the message in /var/log/mailman/ bounce,error,smt

Re: [Mailman-Users] /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py

2015-05-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Debian also puts the files where they belong, including putting > mm_cfg.py in /etc/mailman/ which I agree is the right place, but Mailman > still thinks all the files are in /var/lib/mailman Ah, OK, I see what you mean. Except IIRC Mailman proper knows the absolute path

Re: [Mailman-Users] /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py

2015-05-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/03/2015 05:15 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mark Sapiro writes: > > > > Actually, AFAIK, the Red Hat (hence CentOS) Mailman package is the only > > one that does it right. > > I don't understand what you mean by "right". I actually meant 'right' in a much more limited sense. Also, I

Re: [Mailman-Users] /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py

2015-05-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > On 05/03/2015 06:17 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > > On all the machines I can ssh to, I have an > > /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py as well as a /usr/lib (or /var/lib) > > /mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, and the second is a symbolic link to > > the first. Why do we have an /etc/mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailloop exim lmtp

2015-05-03 Thread Thomas Stein
On Sunday 03 May 2015 07:50:08 Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/03/2015 06:25 AM, Thomas Stein wrote: > > It seems mailman is unable to send mail. Sending mail as user mailman on > > the commandline works. Strange. > > These kinds of problems often result because mailman sends via SMTP to > (by default)

Re: [Mailman-Users] /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py (was EyeLand's problem)

2015-05-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/03/2015 06:17 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In poking around debian systems to see if I could shed any light on > EyeLand's problem, I ended up with a question. On all the machines > I can ssh to, I have an /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py as well as a > /usr/lib (or /var/lib) /mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.p

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailloop exim lmtp

2015-05-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/03/2015 06:25 AM, Thomas Stein wrote: > > It seems mailman is unable to send mail. Sending mail as user mailman on the > commandline works. Strange. These kinds of problems often result because mailman sends via SMTP to (by default) 'localhost' and there is a conflict because for example,

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailloop exim lmtp

2015-05-03 Thread Thomas Stein
On Sunday 03 May 2015 21:48:02 Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Thomas Stein writes: > > Exim gives no error. Just a loop between goodnews-bounces and goodnews. > > What did i wrong this time? :-) > > It appears that Exim can't send mail at all, and so first the error > happens in the mailing list,

Re: [Mailman-Users] /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py (was EyeLand's problem)

2015-05-03 Thread Laura Creighton
In poking around debian systems to see if I could shed any light on EyeLand's problem, I ended up with a question. On all the machines I can ssh to, I have an /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py as well as a /usr/lib (or /var/lib) /mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, and the second is a symbolic link to the first. Why

[Mailman-Users] mailloop exim lmtp

2015-05-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Thomas Stein writes: > Exim gives no error. Just a loop between goodnews-bounces and goodnews. What > did i wrong this time? :-) It appears that Exim can't send mail at all, and so first the error happens in the mailing list, then it tries to send the error information to the list-owner, but t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Conceal the member's address

2015-05-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
EyeLand writes: > I not see OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION and VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES Defaults are set in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py on my Debian system. You should not change that file, any changes will be overwritten the next time you upgrade. Instead, add those variables

Re: [Mailman-Users] Conceal the member's address

2015-05-03 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 03 May 2015 14:04:47 +0300, EyeLand writes: >root@vps1:~# sudo find / -name mm_cfg.py >/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py >/etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py > >on file /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py >https://gist.githubusercontent.com/eyeland/e33c20045867b262d1a2/raw/1bdb433403594c4f1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Conceal the member's address

2015-05-03 Thread EyeLand
2015-05-03 0:32 GMT+03:00 Mark Sapiro : > On 05/02/2015 01:31 PM, EyeLand wrote: > > > - On Debian when I can find file $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py, > > $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ? > > > As far as I know, in the Debian package, $prefix is /var/lib/mailman, > but there may also be a symlink from /u

[Mailman-Users] mailloop exim lmtp

2015-05-03 Thread Thomas Stein
Hola. After having mailman3 installation behind me a first test post seems to lead to a kind of mailloop. mailman smtp.log says: May 03 10:17:37 2015 (24469) <20150503080846.24473.69262@misc.domain> smtp to goodnews@misc.domain for 1 recips, completed in 0.014857053756713867 seconds May 03 10:1