Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 02:19 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 10:51 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. >>> >>> Please, as I asked in my reply at >>>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 02:12 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Oh, and -nothing- involved in email handling is "real time", which has a > fairly specific meaning in computing. *All* email is queued at least a > couple of times along the way and delivered as those systems get around > to it. Use whatever terminolog

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 11:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Also, while you're at it I suggest adding > > VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes > VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes > VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 > > for more reliable bounce processing. One more thing. If you add the above to mm_cfg.py, you also need

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:51 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. >> >> Please, as I asked in my reply at >> , >> post the output from 'postconf -n' and t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 2/28/2016 10:53 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: On 02/29/2016 01:42 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: dig gnutelephony.org that does hang. These are OLD mailing lists and it is hard to be responsible for 20 years of DNS errors by organizations I have no control over. I think that may be the crux of your pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 01:50 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 10:42 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> Can it be set up like that and if so, please tell me how. > > > I'm trying to! > > Please see my posts archived at > > and > <

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 01:42 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > dig gnutelephony.org that does hang. These are OLD mailing lists and it is hard to be responsible for 20 years of DNS errors by organizations I have no control over. -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlant

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. > > Please, as I asked in my reply at > , > post the output from 'postconf -n' and the contents of mm_cfg.py. Sorry, I got mixed up

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:42 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > Can it be set up like that and if so, please tell me how. I'm trying to! Please see my posts archived at and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > IIRC, that means that DNS > lookup failed with no result, not that the relevant nameserver (the > .org rootserver in this case) said there was no such domain. That > probably means multiple timeouts on DNS lookups, each of which might > take 30

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:31 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> By the way, when did you switch to Mailman? Did you start >> experiencing this problem immediately when you did? > > > about 6 months ago and the problem was concurrent absolutely with the > initia

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > By the way, when did you switch to Mailman? Did you start > experiencing this problem immediately when you did? about 6 months ago and the problem was concurrent absolutely with the initiation of mailman. There seems to be no settings I can s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I don't see how any mailing list > manager could deal efficiently with such a high rate of failure, OK - I understand. Another mailing list manager was doing it before perl4 really died. I guess the reality of this is beginning to sink in.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

Ruben Safir writes: > When I read this, it just seems to me that you guys don't know how > the software works. This is user-supported software. Not everybody is all that expert, but people contribute when and what they can. And mild thread- hijacking like asking if there's a way to get certai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Modifying Privacy.py

On 02/28/2016 03:23 PM, ListGnome ProtonMail wrote: > Thanks Mark, > > That worked, with one little "gotcha". I found that after editing > Privacy.py, I had to go to the admin page of the list and although the > Privacy option was showing "Requires approval" - until I re-submitted > the Privay Opt

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.21 Final Release

Please ignore the spurious, fumble fingered post of a few minutes ago. I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.21. Python 2.4 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is strongly recommended. This release includes a few new features and several bug fixes. Most of the changes since th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Modifying Privacy.py

Thanks Mark, That worked, with one little "gotcha". I found that after editing Privacy.py, I had to go to the admin page of the list and although the Privacy option was showing "Requires approval" - until I re-submitted the Privay Options page it would operate as if it were set on "Confirm". T

[Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Announce] Mailman 2.1.21 release - IMPORTANT update

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 03:04 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/28/2016 05:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> bin/config_list -o - listname | grep -v '^#' Ruben, This sub-thread is unrelated to your questions. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 02:54 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > Evidently... So what might be a fix? Because whatever it is it doesn't > affect other mail. :( > > Feb 28 17:17:18 2016 (29233) > smtp to > hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.241 seconds > Feb 28 17:18:27 2016 (29233) <56d30c67.7070...@mrbrk

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 05:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > bin/config_list -o - listname | grep -v '^#' real_name = 'hangout' owner = ['m...@here.com'] moderator = [] description = 'NYLXS Discussions List' info = '' subject_prefix = '[Hangout-NYLXS] ' anonymous_list = False first_strip_reply_to = False

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 12:57 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Would it be difficult to add a command similar to postfix's postconf -n > that would dump the currently used config? Mailman's bin/config_list -o - listname | grep -v '^#' will dump the current config. If you really want postconf -n like output that

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 05:46 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 02:26 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> >>> If there are more than one or two files in the out/ queue, and if the >>> smtp log has successive entries of the form >> >> there are 38 files in there at pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 02:26 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> If there are more than one or two files in the out/ queue, and if the >> smtp log has successive entries of the form > > there are 38 files in there at preseent > -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 4441 Feb 2

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 07:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> No, I mean I send messages and they don't show up for a half hour even >> in the postfix logs > > > Assuming Mailman 2.1.x, the usual cause of this is a backlogged 'out' > queue in Mailman. Look at M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

www:~ # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/version Using Mailman version: 2.1.17 www:~ # postconf -d | grep mail_version mail_version = 2.11.3 milter_macro_v = $mail_name $mail_version -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in

[Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 2/28/2016 1:19 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If that doesn't make it obvious what you need to do, you might want to > tell us something about your configuration and use case. What version > of Mailman? Did you install as a package from a distribution or from > source? If from a distributi

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

Mark Sapiro writes: > Even with full VERP, Mailman should be able to deliver tens of messages > per second to Postfix. If it is slower than that, there is a n issue > with delivery. Once we have more info on whether the queue is backlogged > and what the delivery rate is, we can say more. > Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Switching to Mailman?

On 02/28/2016 07:41 AM, Christian F Buser wrote: > > I woul dlike to use again a Mac Mini for this task, which will have > no public IP-address and no DNS entry pointing to it for mail > delivery. I found a solution to use "fetchmail" for getting inccoming > messages from a standard POP3 mailbox.

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

Mark Sapiro writes: > Even with full VERP, Mailman should be able to deliver tens of messages > per second to Postfix. If it is slower than that, there is a n issue > with delivery. Once we have more info on whether the queue is backlogged > and what the delivery rate is, we can say more. > Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > When I ran it with majordomo their was no problem. How was majordomo submitting email to postfix, and how is mailman now submitting email to postix? -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 07:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > No, I mean I send messages and they don't show up for a half hour even > in the postfix logs Assuming Mailman 2.1.x, the usual cause of this is a backlogged 'out' queue in Mailman. Look at Mailman's 'smtp' log, and look at how many files are in

[Mailman-Users] Switching to Mailman?

Hi all I did not so far use Mailman at all, but I am obviously forced to replace my current list server software :( So far, I am using LetterRip (Version 4.07) on a Mac Mini with MacOS X 10.6. Earlier I also had used Macjordomo X 1.6a5 for some other lists. But both these softwares are program

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 03:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > How do I speed up mailman so that it works instantaneously and stops > > storing messages. > > If you mean "Mailman is administratively holding messages until > released by a moderator," you need to tell us more about your current > configur

Re: [Mailman-Users] date

On 02/28/2016 04:01 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > Sun Feb 28 04:01:23 EST 2016 > [ruben@localhost ~]$ yeah - postfix works are about instantanious as it can get... so where is mailman tripping up? -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mytholog

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 03:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If there's a performance > problem, almost surely either your ISP is throttling you, or your MTA > is misconfigured. Again, we need to know more about how Mailman is > installed, what you're trying to do, and what the other software > involved i

[Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

Ruben Safir writes: > How do I speed up mailman so that it works instantaneously and stops > storing messages. If you mean "Mailman is administratively holding messages until released by a moderator," you need to tell us more about your current configuration and needs. There are several reason

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 03:15 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote: > It's a factor of postfix than it is for mailman. However you could reduce > the level of moderation so things can pass scrutiny as fast on the mailman > side. > everything directly mailed through postfix goes straight through without any delay. So I'

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

It's a factor of postfix than it is for mailman. However you could reduce the level of moderation so things can pass scrutiny as fast on the mailman side. Cheers! Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 28 Feb 2016 07:58, "Ruben Safir" wrote: > Hello > > How do I speed up mailman