Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/04/2017 07:30 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: > > What I'm objecting to is the fact that it hunts down *other* instances > of the address in From and removes them (or perhaps replaces them with > the Reply-To and then eliminates duplicates). I think Reply-All should > take {Reply-To, else From}, To

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Jordan Brown
On 8/4/2017 2:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> My theory is that MS is (wrongly) dropping the "To" copy of list1 from >> the reply because it's the From, and then (correctly) using the Reply-To >> instead of the From. > It looks to me as if your theory is correct, except I wouldn't say > "wrongly". I t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/04/2017 01:35 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: > On 8/4/2017 12:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I'm aware of issues with Microsoft services adding 'spoofing' warnings >> to messages where the From: address and the To: address are the same. >> Is this what you were referring to by "Setting it to the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Jordan Brown
On 8/4/2017 12:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I'm aware of issues with Microsoft services adding 'spoofing' warnings > to messages where the From: address and the To: address are the same. > Is this what you were referring to by "Setting it to the list name > interacts badly with outloook.com and hotm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/04/2017 10:15 AM, Jordan Brown wrote: > On 8/4/2017 8:24 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 08/03/2017 07:15 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: >>> Is there a way to control the From value when it gets munged so we pass >>> DMARC? >> There's no configuration for it, but it's a simple patch. > > Thanks. Alas

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Jordan Brown
On 8/4/2017 8:24 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/03/2017 07:15 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: >> Is there a way to control the From value when it gets munged so we pass >> DMARC? > There's no configuration for it, but it's a simple patch. Thanks. Alas, I'm a hosting-provider customer, not standalone, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newer Thunderbird reply list behaviour

2017-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/04/2017 06:46 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > Does anyone know the precise mechanisms that Thunderbird is using, and > whether there is any way to overrite it so we can get the old behaviour back > by using the reply function to reply to the list? This is a Thunderbird "feature". It's stup

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/04/2017 07:52 AM, Adam Goldberg wrote: > General Options, select "Munge From". > > [cid:image001.png@01D30D0F.C2588CD0] Your screen shot was removed by content filtering, however a few comments: It is usually preferable to use the more selective Privacy options... -> Sender filters -> dma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Adam Goldberg
General Options, select "Munge From". [cid:image001.png@01D30D0F.C2588CD0] Adam Goldberg AGP, LLC +1-202-507-9900 -Original Message- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+adam=agp-llc@python.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Brown Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:15 P

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newer Thunderbird reply list behaviour

2017-08-04 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 08/04/2017 07:46 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: I am recently getting a lot of complaints from Thunderbird users on several lists running on our Mailman 2.1.24 system that when they press ctrl+r for reply, the reply goes to the individual sender and not the list. Mailman is set to strip the Repl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/03/2017 07:15 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: > Is there a way to control the From value when it gets munged so we pass > DMARC? There's no configuration for it, but it's a simple patch. The exact patch depends on what version you have. In Mailman 2.1.18, the code is around line 133 and is >

[Mailman-Users] Customize "From" when munging it for DMARC?

2017-08-04 Thread Jordan Brown
Is there a way to control the From value when it gets munged so we pass DMARC? Setting it to the list name interacts badly with outloook.com and hotmail.com replies. Since the From address really isn't used (because there's a Reply-To), it seems like it could be anything that's at the host domain

[Mailman-Users] Newer Thunderbird reply list behaviour

2017-08-04 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hi, I am recently getting a lot of complaints from Thunderbird users on several lists running on our Mailman 2.1.24 system that when they press ctrl+r for reply, the reply goes to the individual sender and not the list. Mailman is set to strip the Reply-To header and set replies to go to the l

Re: [Mailman-Users] [SOLVED] Re: Error UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xe0 in position 88: invalid continuation byte

2017-08-04 Thread Jacques Lav!gnotte.
Le 03/08/2017 à 17:09, Mark Sapiro a écrit : > This was overkill. The underlying issue was that the list's > 'description' attribute was encoded in a character set which was not > that of the list's preferred language. Thanks Mark. This will probably will be usefull for some more lists because th