[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
This is really useful information. Thanks very much! Unfortunately I don't have shell access to my virtual server, or even access to files outside of those for my webserver. I can't find the config.pck file anywhere. I used to run complete servers of various flavors, but the amount of that

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Actually, the first 2.1 release was in December, 2002. See > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/7%20Mailman%20history You would You have to admit the early 2.1 release history is extremely confusing. I'm pretty sure I chose the tag that was exactly "2.1". ---

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/5/23 7:51 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: Heck, if I knew where the footer data was stored, I'd be happy to go in and edit the file by hand, the web page be damned. I just want to get this delivered and out of the way. Watch it probably be in some DB for which there was never any compelling

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
It is disturbing that they don't keep up, but they're in Austria (or maybe Switzerland). People are conservative there, because they have elaborate acceptance criteria. I once had a customer go live with a national regulated server running on a beta version of Java Server Pages, and leave th

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
Answer I can provide that usefully add value are listed below: I actually precisely wrote what I did. I started reverse engineering how to solve the problem, using my other two preexisting lists. One was already 'public' (meaning browsable). Since I could delete the footer on that one withou

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Charles Buckley writes: > > I saw a report of this behaviour on this mailing list from the year > > 2000. > If you have an URL for this post, or a timestamp, or even a precise > date, it might be helpful. I can't find it. It's https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/5/2023 12:54 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell access. Mailman would have to be reinstalled by the sysadmins -- I can't do it. I have involved them, but they're still coming up to speed. That in itself is a trifle worrying-- a

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/5/23 1:27 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: I experimented with this a bit, and found that I could eliminate the footer on my public (browsable) list on the same server. So I tried converting my other private (non-browsable) list to be browsable, at which point I could eliminate the footer, and

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
Hello, Thanks for answering. If the first private list I could successfully change by making it non-private also behaved as the 'recalcitrant list' before I did so, then I would suggest that it's a mailman issue. My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell access

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Charles Buckley writes: > I experimented with this a bit, and found that I could eliminate > the footer on my public (browsable) list on the same server. So I > tried converting my other private (non-browsable) list to be > browsable, at which point I could eliminate the footer, and then > sw

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/5/2023 1:27 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: Any advice would be appreciated. My first advice would be to upgrade to the current 2.1 mailman (.39?) and try it again; 2.15 is -really- old and this behavior may be due to a bug that's been fixed. z!

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
I run three Mailman lists on my web server, one browsable and two non-browsable. I wanted to eliminate the footer that gets added to the bottom of messages distributed by one of the private (non-browsable) lists. When I tried to do this, I would browse to the admin non-digest page, delete the c