Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-06 Thread Dave Crocker
g nothing. (Analogy: Do you know what happens when you try to juggle too many balls at the same time? You do not drop just one.) > A couple more points. "Other" communications services that provide > levels of service often negotiate them with subscribers, not with > third parties.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Dave Crocker
d direct. -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://bbiw.net> -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://bbiw.net> -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Dave Crocker
Does this have any rules about ad hominem attacks? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://bbiw.net> -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FA

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Dave Crocker
he points I have been raising, except as sounding boards for repeating your assertions that abuse is certain. Hyperbole is wonderfully satisfying to the person uttering it, and utterly destructive for any serious dialogue. So, I think we are done. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Dave Crocker
verse place, it is always possible to find an example of pretty much any behavior one wishes to describe. Using that example as proof of the inevitability of the behavior is simply not valid, because it also means that there are always coun

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Dave Crocker
Brad Knowles wrote: > At 5:53 PM -0800 2006-03-03, Dave Crocker wrote: > >> AOL creates a specialized, rather expensive process that it provides for >> free, to ensure delivery of a class of mail. > > Unless you mean "all mail" when you say "class

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-03 Thread Dave Crocker
ible* mishandling of such a service as being the same as *definite* mishandling. Perhaps it is just that I have yet to see a capability that was worth having that could not also be abused. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://bbiw.net> --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-02-24 Thread Dave Crocker
r their "Enhanced > Whitelist" service, which is apparently being phased out in favor of > Goodmail. This is explicitly what they are saying they will NOT be doing. They will continue their current white list and enhanced white list services. the EWL is probably what solves you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-02-23 Thread Dave Crocker
ions and is only an adjunct to both service providers' existing mechanisms. For example, AOL with be continuing both of its existing white-list services. From what I can tell, the Goodmail technology does not work through a mailing list. From what I can tell, limited its application

[Mailman-Users] Publishing participant posting statistics

2006-02-05 Thread Dave Crocker
onstitutes.) Such reports can help an on-going group discussion. It both shows whether there is much on-going interest and it shows whether anyone is dominating the discussion. And it does this is a nicely non-confrontational way. Is there a preferred way to do this with mailman? Tnx. d/