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Another issue we had not too long ago was when we would approve the send the
> emails were sent 6 to 8 hours later.
This sounds like a rate-limiting situation. You might check with your
Mailman host to see if they limit in any way the number of messages
that can be sent per minute, hour, day, e
Forgot reply-to-all. Sorry for duplicates.
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On 5/24/07, Carter Braxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> broken template: /var/lib/mailman/templates/en/invite.txt int argument
> required
Doesn't look like a size limitation.
Can you send your new template to the list so we can look at it?
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> listserv. But when it
> comes bash through, it get the errors.
Did your configuration ever work? If so, has anything changed?
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lman), which is used to
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difficult to implement if folks are using HTML mail; for plaintext
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e form fields on the general page for the list?
> i tested it, but it does not work and i don't know
> why.
The problem is probably that the /admin/* pages require the list or
site admin password to be in a cookie, and normal users are
Forgot to 'Reply To All'.
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On 5/17/07, Paul Kleeberg MD Ra
#x27; to at least 'Require
approval,' if not 'Confirm and approve.'
Then, send invitations from Member Management > Mass Subscribe. (set
'Subscribe these users now or invite them?' to 'invite')
(Is there a better way to do any part of this?)
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nner to
send it along to CommandRunner instead of just forwarding it to the
admin. Of course, if it's a genuinely unrecognized bounce, this would
result in the sender getting a bounce BACK for the unknown command,
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spam, and see if you can get on some kind of whitelist.
A good starting point might be Hotmail's 'postmaster' site
<http://postmaster.msn.com/>.
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wnload a file
> > called right_main.php.
>
> I'm pretty sure that Mailman doesn't use PHP -- It's Python, instead.
> So, whatever is going on here, I don't think it has anything to do
> with Mailman per se.
Indeed, 'ri
> ' prompt; type anything after the line break
(6) Type the closing single quote ( ' )
(7) Press enter, or type in more arguments.
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s listed under
> Sender Filters in "List of non-member addresses whose postings should be
> automatically accepted." She is not listed in the subscribers at all, and the
> list still won't accept her. Any further suggestions?
> Thank
_these_nonmembers, reject_these_nonmembers, or
discard_these_nonmembers.
(3) Privacy Options... > Spam filters: Make sure there isn't a pattern
in header_filter_rules or bounce_matching_headers that would match a
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but nothing else
I don't see that indicated from this single log entry, but maybe there
are others you didn't include. That's okay. At first guess, I'd
suppose there's something wrong getting the email to your server,
whic
oing
> wrong. It'd be nice to get the rejection rate down.
>
> Dennis
>
> Brad Knowles wrote:
> > See also FAQ 3.42.
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y. Email addresses are *easily* forged. Trivially forged,
even.
So, this might actually even be a bad thing, since it will give a
false sense of security while actually adding none.
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> I am sending from the address listed as admin!
Can you check Maimlan's 'vette' log and tell us exactly what it says
for one of the rejected posts?
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any message to the list from a non-member. We're a small group
> with a tightly controlled membership so it won't be a problem to just
> blanket reject messages from non-subscribers. Thanks for your help.
Set generic_nonmember_action on Admin -> Privacy Options -> Sender
Fil
#x27;) that posted the start of this thread?
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system). How about SMTPHOST? If
you haven't overwritten these in mm_cfg.py, the defaults of SMTPDirect
and '0' should be set, which means to use the default from Smtplib.
I believe this is going to be 'localhost'; if this isn't right for
yo
the mailman level, or does your MTA
have some sort of spam prevention?
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On 2/8/07, M. Onur ERGiN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right, I have Mailman 2.1.7 and Python 2.5. Now, should I change the version
> of Python or Mailman? or, is there anything else better that you could
> suggest?
Upgrading to the newest Mailman is always a good choice.
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> possible?
So far as I know, this isn't possible in Mailman. You'd have to modify
the code.. If you think you're up to it, other folk should be able to
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s bash, well- that's another story
altogether.
Please note: The mailman user shouldn't *need* a valid shell for
programs to be running with its privileges. If there's not a reason
you need to login (either via su or something else), you're probably
better off giving mailman an i
rries the photocopies away.
> What my client appears to have is a simple diffusion setup. They use it
> as a means to send info to multiple people. So members do not
> contribute.
This is fairly standard, and referred to as an 'announce-only' list.
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e of X-Archive ?
About line 35 of Handlers/ToArchive.py, we find:
if msg.has_key('x-no-archive') or msg.get('x-archive', '').lower() == 'no':
return
Commenting out these two lines will get what you want.
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27; is a member of the 'Athletics'
list. There are some options to help with this, such as setting the
Athletics list not to send password reminders (since the password
reminder would go to all of the hockey players list.
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others may know better.
I guess this is a production box? Any chance you could build a test
box (vmware image?), install the newest mailman with python 2.2 on
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obably not related, if you can't add members, but
double-check to make sure that all of mailman's qrunners are running.
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possible to put together some filter
rules to hold or reject messages with these requests included;
although this is really just a way to reinforce the idea that they
shouldn't be sending them.
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On 12/27/06, AMBROSE CHRISTOPHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
( a whole lot. Snipped. )
Please, do not reply to digests and include the entire digest. I have
no idea what you were trying to ask, because I am not going to read
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; We are not sure how mailman delivery would work in
> this environment? Thanks.
The recommended way is to modify your postfix configuration to deliver
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as it's designed (i.e., to deliver to the local MTA), and
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See FAQ 3.13. How do I remove a user name or email address with an
illegal character in it?
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&am
xplicit_destination setting, but I didn't think this held the
message. That said, I'm not sure what action it triggers, so check it
anyway.
You might want to double-check and see if there's any spam filters set up.
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ing the Mailman documentation I saw a mention of
> an "umbrella list", but the only description here says
> "umbrella lists" are depreciated and will be replaced with
> a better mechanism for Mailman 3.0". Are um
onfig to see if all your MX records
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P or IMAP server), then it needs to be configured to accept messages
for kcheney for local delivery. If your SMTP relay host is the server
where you read your mail, IT Needs to be set up to accept mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for local delivery.
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> Patrick Bogen wrote:
>
> >Unfortunately, it looks like, since Moderate.py comes before anything
> >else, there's no really 'correct' way to do this.
>
>
> It doesn't come before Spam
e.
>
> Ideas?
Run fix_url
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SpamDetect should be the first handler in the pipeline, which means
that header_filter_rules should be one of the first things checked. I
do not know what is causing your issue.
What does the vette log have to say about these messages?
Please keep all replies on-list.
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set to for these rules?
Is it possible the message is being pre-approved some other way?
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> out to the Mailman list.
I don't believe there's a setting to accomplish this. It shouldn't,
however, be terribly difficult to modify the various methods for
creating lists to generate an announcement to a fixed address,
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however. This might have something to do with why listname-leave isn't
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It reportedly applies properly to 2.1.8.. I don't know if anyone's
tried it against 2.1.9. If you're worried, just make a backup of
everything before you patch it.
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P.s., please keep all replies on-list
On 11/30/06, Todd Seeleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Additionally, each sublist either needs 'require_explicit_destination'
set to 'No,' or the address of the umbrella list added to
'acceptable_aliases'.
There may be something I'm missing, but I think that's everything.
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X_RCPTS in
your mm_cfg.py to whichever values you want. SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is
probably not important, since you're using full personalization.
SMTP_MAX_SESSION_PER_CONNECTION is what you're asking about, however.
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On 11/30/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/30/06, Dominika Tkaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My second question is: does Mailman use any email authorization or it simply
> > checks the From: header of messages?
> Mailman only checks the From h
hat the latter is a bit
dependent on how the message is constructed, so if your email client
handles HTML email weird, and you use that, it's possible that mailman
might miss the header. The handling should be pretty good, though, and
text-only emails should be pretty much foolproof.
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le-check that your MTA is listening on port 25? Either
using: netstat -lnp (and looking for port 25) or: telnet localhost 25
and see if the MTA responds (after a few seconds, probably.)
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? (The
latter would be a bad thing).
The default SMTPHOST is 'localhost', and the port is 0, which means
the default. If you aren't running an MTA on the machine running
Mailman (from what I understand, you are?), you'll need to change
them. If you've cha
mydomain.com the same machine as that
on which mailman runs?
Can you check your MTA (e.g., sendmail, postfix, exim, or qmail) logs
to see what's happening to the request you send to listname-leave?
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retty sure somewhere along the line i set all the users to be in the
> "hold" space for nonmoderators or list owners. I am wondering if I have
> some other problem since i can't unsubscribe by emailing to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
>
> Ken
>
> Patrick Bogen <[E
y
Options' page of the admin interface. Set this to 'no'.
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d expect them to.
Are you sure the messages were held, and not discarded or rejected?
Check the 'member_moderation_action' setting I mentioned.
Also, please try to keep your replies on-list, so that others can
chime in when I'm wrong about thing
ult,
depending on which email client you're using), or as the first line in
the email (this can be very tricky if you're sending HTML email. For
normal text, it should be fairly foolproof). Either way, the
header/line should look like:
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g like "
> http://localhost:8080/mailman"; will work for me, as long people always
> forward port 8080?
This isn't exactly right, but you've got the general idea.
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Another option might be to use a console-mode web browser, such as
elinks. The Mailman pages are pretty simple in their construction, and
so elinks should be more than adequate for whatever you need
except
in a few limited circumstances, like that which Dan mentioned.
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a packaged version?
You might want to run through Chapter 5 of the installation manual
<http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html> and
make sure you followed everything properly.
It might be worthwhile to run check_perms, as well, although I'm not
sure if it actua
s.py, since
this file can (and probably will) be overwritten during an upgrade of
Mailman. mm_cfg.py, however, will NOT be overwritten by Mailman's
installation scripts, so it's safe to put configuration data there.
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I much prefer postfix to exim). You need documentation that covers the
basics of using and administering Mailman, which is what the linked
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ork a spammer has to
do; and on the scale they work, that's a lot.
Personally, I'd like to see hashcash become widespread, but I guess
that'd be hell for a mailing list.
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nd heldmsg -name '*' | xargs rm
> (it also looks like the base dir is missing in the example.)
That seems like it'd be more efficient. Changed. (Fixed.)
>
> I don't see how the last example would be any better than the first, you
> can
ooks, in fact, like
'mydomain.com' is an invalid domain (check your email address in the
membership), or your mailman machine might have some kind of DNS
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These topics should be covered therein. Once you (mostly) understand
what it has to say, we'll be happy to help you address any issues you
might run across.
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differently; although perhaps I don't have the same understanding of
that phrase as you do. You can set messages from non-members to be
automatically discarded or rejected, as you wish. See Privacy Options
> Sender Filters > generic_no
aq04.074.htp>
to answer this. If someone else can look it over for me and
double-check that what I've put is accurate (and the best phrasing,
etc.), I'd be appreciative.
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figuration, not only do you need either
acceptable_aliases or !require_explicit_destination, but the umbrella
list address will also need to be in accept_these_nonmembers, or a
member of the sub lists (but the latter, here, is almost certainly a
bad idea. So, stick with acce
ts.cmwd-uua.org, OR with whichever server was
trying to talk to it. The latter is probably not the case, but it MAY
be due to a network disruption if everything checks out on the MTA
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I go to 2.1.9?
The best option (and what you should be doing now) is filtering spam
at the MTA level; either flat-out rejecting spam there, or tagging it
in some way that you can later reject things at the Mailman level, if
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that there are any dedicated mailman-only
offerings.
Personally, I have a VPS from vpsland.com (on which I run Debian,
heh.), which I could run mailman on; it's $11/mo.
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that fixes the problem.
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's all that's required.
If you can read bash script, FAQ 4.18
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.018.htp>
might help you figure all this out.
P.s.,
Please CC the list on all replies, so that more well-ve
ently broken?
It depends on why it's broken.
That said, if you follow the procedures given for moving a list to
another machine (except, instead, just move all the files aside while
you purge/reinstall), it shouldn't be any more broken than
't offer the level of support
and comptence that you need.
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On 10/20/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick Bogen [20/10/06 13:37 -0500]:
>
> > This is most likely caused by MTA issues. Search the FAQ for 'performance'.
> >
> > Is this the only list on that machine? Are you sure it wasn't a
rived.
This is most likely caused by MTA issues. Search the FAQ for 'performance'.
Is this the only list on that machine? Are you sure it wasn't a
one-time delay? (E.g., a nameserver that was temporarily inaccessible)
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efit from recommending them (however, they're quite inexpensive and
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