Re: [Mailman-Users] Message may contain ... administrivia?

Guilty as charged. On several counts. Oy! On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:56:57 +0200, you wrote: >In a message of Thu, 01 Oct 2015 01:35:02 -0400, Steve Matzura writes: >>Well now I've seen everything. Why would Mailman send a return message >>to a subscriber to a mailing list tha

[Mailman-Users] Message may contain ... administrivia?

Well now I've seen everything. Why would Mailman send a return message to a subscriber to a mailing list that says their message couldn't be posted to the mailing list because "message may contain administrivia"? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] cron log looks odd

On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:24:24 -0700, you wrote: >On 09/01/2015 10:00 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> I get Mailman job logs that look like this: >> >> Sep 1 08:00:01 {my_node} CROND[29280]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python >> -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs^M) >>

[Mailman-Users] cron log looks odd

I get Mailman job logs that look like this: Sep 1 08:00:01 {my_node} CROND[29280]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs^M) Sep 1 09:00:01 {my_node} CROND[30120]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/disabled^M) Sep 1 12:00:01 {my_node} atronus

[Mailman-Users] No luck on the overnights

I'm now thinking none of the overnight cron jobs are running. I set digest mode to a couple lists, posted to them, then modified the digest job's run time from 12:00 every day to a minute or two from current time, waited ten minutes, and got nothing in response. Then I did the same for the monthly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 08:44:56 -0700, Mark wrote: >On 08/09/2015 08:25 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> >> No errors on the overnights, Things appear to be working correctly. >> I'm trying to run the password reminder job now, /var/log/messages >> shows it started twe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 18:47:29 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 08/08/2015 06:22 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:39:19 -0700, Mark asked: >> >>> What does >>> >>> groups mailman >>> >>> report? It should be 'ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:39:19 -0700, Mark asked: >What does > >groups mailman > >report? It should be 'mailman : mailman'. If so, and the crons are >getting permission problems, check if SELinux is enabled and if so, try >disabling it. It's "mailman : mailman postfix", and SELinux is disabled acco

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 09:19:27 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 08/08/2015 08:12 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> Every night, I get the following error at the bottom of a mail message >> to my mailman list telling me that checkdbs, digest and disabled >> failed: >> >&g

[Mailman-Users] Permissions error on all Mailman overnights

Every night, I get the following error at the bottom of a mail message to my mailman list telling me that checkdbs, digest and disabled failed: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/locks/mailman.lock.{my-FQDN}.{some-number}.0' This also happened on the one and only password

[Mailman-Users] mailpasswd failure

With some excellent help, all my Mailman problems up to today have been solved. and my mailing lists have been behaving normally. Since it's a new month, mailpasswd ran earlier this morning. The email of the cron job reported a permissions error on one of the config.pck files for one of the lists.

[Mailman-Users] Phantom or unknown address for mailing lists

Finally got all my mail stuff straight. However, a strange and untraceable thing has happened. It now seems all my mailing lists' addresses begin with "mail." (list-n...@mail.my-domain.com). There's nothing in main.cf to explain this. My MX record is called "mail," but should that affect Mailman? -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong perms?(fwd) Cron /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip

On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:00:38 -0700, Mark wrote: >On 07/09/2015 06:48 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> After solving my cron confusions, I get these messages daily: >> >> Subject: Cron /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs >> >> ... >> IOError: [Errno 13] P

[Mailman-Users] Wrong perms?(fwd) Cron /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip

After solving my cron confusions, I get these messages daily: Subject: Cron /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs ... IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lock/mailman/mailman.lock.{mynode}.{mydomain.com}.7552.0' Subject: Cron /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled ... IOError: [Errno 13] Permission

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:11:40 -0400, Mark wrote: >>RedHat's /etc/init.d/mailman copies the cron/crontab.in to >>/etc/cron.d/mailman. So if you start Mailman via 'service mailman >>start', the crontab in crontab.in will be installed. It's done in the Mailman service definition, which means the cron

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:17:23 -0700, you wrote: >RedHat's /etc/init.d/mailman copies the cron/crontab.in to >/etc/cron.d/mailman. So if you start Mailman via 'service mailman >start', the crontab in crontab.in will be installed. > >At least that's the way I *think* it works. Ask RedHat or look at t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >In your case, the RedHat package has modified Mailman's crontab.in to be >a system crontab and already installed it in /etc/cron.d/. It did, but the file is virtually empty (only three or four comment lines warning not to edit it and that i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, you wrote: >On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> >> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro >> wrote: >> >>> These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been >>> formatted as a s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 08:54:44 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >The RedHat/Centos package is even more complex. See the FAQ at >. Thanks. Noted and saved for future reference. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

This should have gone to the list instead of where it went. On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Shapiro wrote: >These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been >formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place >like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a user contab s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:22:43 -0700, Mark wrote: >Mailman has two main configuration paths, $prefix for immutable code, >etc. and $var_prefix for mutable data. By default, $var_prefix = >$prefix, but in your case, you or the packager whose package you >installed configured mailman with $prefix=/usr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:50:58 -0700, you wrote: >$prefix/archives and the private/ and public/ sub-directories thereof >are created on installation, and if Mailman is running there must be a >'mailman' site list and thus $prefix/archives/private/mailman/ and >$prefix/archives/private/mailman.mbox/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Learning to use withlist

On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:38:49 -0700, you wrote: >If you mean what can you do interactively after invoking withlist on a >list and have a '>>>' prompt, see > for the >Python part. For the Mailman specific stuff, You need to understand what

[Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The subject fields of these five all begin with the same text

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error

Mark: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 17:07:21 -0700, you wrote: >> The smpt log is now clean. Newest message is ten minutes older than >> the current date and time. I suspect running check_perms fixed >> everything. > > >Does a 'subscribe' email get delivered to Mailman? That could have been >a permissions

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error

On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 16:46:00 -0700, you wrote: >On 07/02/2015 09:23 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 08:23:23 -0700, you wrote: >> >>> Mailman is sending a notice to the 'mailman' list and it's >>> undeliverable. That doesn'

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 16:39:36 -0700, you wrote: >> After check_perms fixed all problems, I re-ran it and got this: >> >> Warning: Private archive directory is other-executable (o+x). >> This could allow other users on your system to read private >> archives. >> If you're on a sha

[Mailman-Users] Learning to use withlist

What's the best section of the standard documentation or the wiki to consult in order to learn how to correctly use withlist? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error

On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 08:23:23 -0700, you wrote: >On 07/02/2015 07:56 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> I have a new Mailman implementation connected to Postfix which is in >> turn connected to Dovecot. These two components are working correctly, >> as I have mailboxes set up with th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error

On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 08:23:23 -0700, you wrote: >Mailman is sending a notice to the 'mailman' list and it's >undeliverable. That doesn't look like a 'bounce' log message. It looks >more like 'post' log. What's in the 'smtp-failure' log? Jul 02 16:12:13 2015 (1308) smtp to mailman for 1 recips, co

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 08:24:12 -0700, you wrote: >On 07/02/2015 07:56 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> If I browse to http://{my-node.my-domain.com}/mailman/admin, I get the >> following: >> >> Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18-1 >> >> Bug in Mailman versio

[Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

If I browse to http://{my-node.my-domain.com}/mailman/admin, I get the following: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18-1 Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18-1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been expl

[Mailman-Users] Permissions error

I have a new Mailman implementation connected to Postfix which is in turn connected to Dovecot. These two components are working correctly, as I have mailboxes set up with them and have created a test Mailman mailing list and received confirmation that it has in fact been created. Now I'm attemptin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to get mail working

On Wed, 13 May 2015 23:19:45 +0900, Steve Turnbull wrote: >Dovecot and Mailman should be mostly independent of each other, while >both depend crucially on Postfix. The first thing to do is to find >the log files for each application, and test that mail works for all >combinations of inside and ou

[Mailman-Users] Trying to get mail working

I have charge of a very mixed system--current OS (Fedora 20--OK 21's out but I just haven't upgraded yet), current (or nearly so) Mailman (2.1.18-1), Postfix 2.10 with a configuration file sfrom something a lot older which I've run through the upgrade-configuration procedure, and old Dovecot (1.0.1

[Mailman-Users] Unknown Virtual Host question

I'm setting up a new Mailman implementation on a new machine that's a virtual copy of a running production machine. I'm expecting problems because I'm trying to use the same domain name in two places, and I absolutely understand that's not going to work, but the bottom line is, the faster I get the

Re: [Mailman-Users] 18-1 Bug with Empty error logfile

should be. All good now, and of course, many thanks. It's always the little things. On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:04:43 -0800, you wrote: >On 01/10/2015 07:01 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> I just brought up a new 2.1.18-1 installation and am geting the "we're >> sorry but

[Mailman-Users] 18-1 Bug with Empty error logfile

I just brought up a new 2.1.18-1 installation and am geting the "we're sorry but we encountered a bug" page on theadmin interface. /var/log/mail/error is 0-length. Should I turn stealth mode off to get more info possibly? -- Mailman-Users mailin

Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Well, on a new implementation, I'm getting the same thing in 2.18-1. What'd you do to fix it on your end? On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:33:19 +0200, you wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: > > >> The above message indicates the traceback was written to some 'error' log, >> just not the one you're looking at. >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Configurations and Lists to a New Server

On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:13:30 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 12:43 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote: >> This reply mechanism is driving me a little weird--the reply function >> sends the messages to their individual authors, not the list. I hope >> I'm not breeching e

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Configurations and Lists to a New Server

tions (which is already underway) and then switch the DNS records after the new environment has been thoroughly tested. I'll check the wiki's you mentioned and report on progress when done. On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:09:52 -0700, you wrote: >On 06/05/2014 04:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >>

[Mailman-Users] Moving Configurations and Lists to a New Server

Thanks to Steve Turnbull's help and some intelligent manual-reading, I have successfully built and installed version 2.1.18-1 on a Debian 7 (Wheezy) system. check_perms reports no problems, `version' reports the right version number, I'm ready for the next step, which is to move an entire configura

[Mailman-Users] Install from repository, or build from source?

I am a site admin for a system built on Debian version 7 (Wheezy). The current available mailman package distribution version is 2.1.15 but I want to use 2.1.18-1, which means, unless I miss my guess, it's got to be built from source. If this isn't so, I'd greatly appreciate knowing where and how t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:37:42 -0700, you wrote: >>Did I forget to check or report on anything? > > >Well, you never answered the questions I asked at > >so we don't know what was wrong there, but presumably, you don't care >as y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via web interface in2.1.11

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:28:25 -0700, you wrote: >How do you know this? Is the list visible in the web UI? In >bin/list_lists? Neither. >It may, but I can't say with the information I have. I'd need to see >'postconf -n' but I don't think that's necessary. I think the issue is >the aliases were ne

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

which may have something to do with why the Web create doesn't work, but 'newlist' does. On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:19:29 -0500, you wrote: > >On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:24:07 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: >> >>&g

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:24:07 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: >On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Steve Matzura wrote: > >> It would *never* be in my best interest not to give you all the info. >> The problem is, I don't know exactly what info you need or want, and >> what would be su

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in 2.1.11

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:46:48 -0700, you wrote: >You need to 'chmod 660 /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db' It >must be writable by the 'list group or it can't be updated by the web >server running the create CGI. I did that and am still receiving the unknown virtual host error when

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

ed, 28 Mar 2012 12:28:27 -0700, you wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>Steve Matzura wrote: >> >>>and >>>second, the aliases file is not updated, so if a subscriber tries to >>>send a message to the list, they receive an auto-reply telling them >>>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via web interface in 2.1.11

w-rw 1 list list 12288 2012-03-28 19:07 aliases.db -rw-rw 1 root list 5830 2012-03-28 19:07 virtual-mailman -rw-r- 1 root list 12288 2012-03-28 19:07 virtual-mailman.db On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:52:45 +0900, you wrote: >On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: > >>

[Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via web interface in 2.1.11

It works just fine if I log in as root and use newlist, but if I try to create a new list via the web admin interface, two things happen. First, I get an error, whose text I do not have in front of me (I know, I know, first rule of error reporting, report the exact error, but you probably won't nee