Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives and International Character Sets(Mailman2.1.11)

2009-03-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Stefan Förster writes: > If changing a language definition like that, doesn't that mean one > will have to change the various predefined template files, all message > codes for that language and after that recreate the archive files? Normally, yes. But this is *English*. It's reasonably like

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives and International Character Sets(Mailman2.1.11)

2009-03-29 Thread Stefan Förster
* Mark Sapiro wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> Mark Sapiro writes: >> >>> add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'utf-8', 'ltr') >> >> Shouldn't this probably be default by now? > > > Yes, it should. But, we have superstitious beliefs that something > unintended will be broken by this. Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives and International Character Sets(Mailman2.1.11)

2009-03-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Yes, it should. But, we have superstitious beliefs that something > > unintended will be broken by [setting the default encoding to > > UTF-8]. Oh, me too! The Ghost of Charsets Past will undoubtedly rise up to remind

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives and International Character Sets(Mailman2.1.11)

2009-03-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Mark Sapiro writes: add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'utf-8', 'ltr') Shouldn't this probably be default by now? Yes, it should. But, we have superstitious belief

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives and International Character Sets(Mailman2.1.11)

2009-03-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Mark Sapiro writes: > > > add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'utf-8', 'ltr') > >Shouldn't this probably be default by now? Yes, it should. But, we have superstitious beliefs that something unintended will be broken by this. Yet, I continue to suggest it as a workarou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives and International Character Sets (Mailman2.1.11)

2009-03-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'utf-8', 'ltr') Shouldn't this probably be default by now? I'm usually pretty hesitant to mess with existing defaults, but as I understand this there's actually corrupt data in the .txt files. This can be a real headache for people usin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives and International Character Sets (Mailman2.1.11)

2009-03-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Drew Tenenholz wrote: > >The list is a announce-only type in Russian (Cyrillic), but the >default language is set to English (so I can read the admin pages and >complete the necessary tasks). As I believe Mark mentioned before, >this means that the messages themselves (sent by the Russian >Mod